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Jumpin said:


Achievements aren't an innovation, they're a gimmick, and games like Dragon Quest 5 did it years before Microsoft even considered coming to the market.

Harddrives have been around since the 80s.

Xbox Live is just an online service like any other, again. That stuffs been around since the 90s.

Goldeneye was around years before Halo, and there was also Turok, Half Life, Perfect Dark, Medal of Honor, etc... This was not a Microsoft innovation, it was something they cashed in on.

Gears of War wasn't made by Microsoft.

Promoting WRPGs is not an innovation.

Wii did motion controls first.


lol that people still think motion controls were an innovation boggles my mind

the actual meaning of innovation is with regards to some new improvement to a field that is incorporated into that field as a standard... that is not the case with what was done with the wii

at this point in time motion controls are scarcely used and only on nintendo's platform 

in terms of the actual definition acheivements are actually an innovation because they are ubiquitous with regards to console gaming and quite clearly are hear to stay

 

"Xbox Live is just an online service like any other, again. That stuffs been around since the 90s."

the point is that microsoft pioneered online gaming on consoles

 

"Harddrives have been around since the 80s."

all technology that is used in gaming consoles comes originally from pcs so this argument could apply to any aspect of gaming...