Scientology on the news again, Anonymous owned them again

[starcraft]

Final-Fan said:

starcraft said:

Phendrana said:
That's not my interpretation. That's not an accusation. It's just how they work. Like Christians going to church on Sunday, Scientology charges money, has a disconnection policy, forbids medication, and attacks critics. Jesus Christ, why is this so hard for you to understand?

Did you miss the part of my post where I said there are protesters who aren't anonymous, or are you just ignoring that so you can keep saying the same thing over and over again?

And it was a freaking joke, get over it.

But it is your interpretation. Are you a former member? Do you own their official policy guide? Because unless the answer to at least one of those questions is a definitive yes, everything you have posted is your interpretation.

I didn't miss the part about non-anonymous protesters at all. The reason I didn't comment is because I have already made reference to them numerous times in this thread. I will repeat it once more for you. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, LOOK THE CoS IN THE EYE AND MAKE AN ACCUSATION!!!!

Phendrana said:
http://lisatrust.freewinds.cx/scientology/snow-white/index.html
Here you go. A link about the FBI raids on the church, where they found documents on infiltrating government agencies as well as documents on framing people who opposed them.

http://www.clambake.org/archive/disk/fairgame.htm
And a link that has the text of the policy with the "tricked, sued, lied to or destroyed" quote.

You don't have to be a former member to know they do something like charge money or forbid medication. On that note, I'm done with this thread forever.

Unless I missed something starcraft you never responded to this. I understand that this person left the thread but considering the relevancy and your continual requests for proof from other people I think it's important that you respond to this. Otherwise you do nothing but strengthen Sqrl's (and my) suspicions.

In particular, the clambake link contains the extremely important information that the "Fair Game" policy was repealed in name only and continues to this day (or at least 1989) so unchanged that many official documents still refer to it by the old, discontinued name! I was aware that that was the case but I didn't realize it was proven by leaked documents.

"When brought up, they try to change the subject to you, asking what criminal acts you have on your conscience. According to Scientology all critics of Scientology are criminals, that's why they are critics... Nice logic"

Thats a quote from the clambake article.  Notice how I have been willingly engaging the subject matter of this thread, without changing the subject?  That's substantially contradicts the notion rasied by sqrl that I am simply employing CoS tactics in "attacking my attacker by changing the subject" wouldn't you say?  Bear in mind the fact that it was ssj12 that accused me of murder and aggravated assault because I disagreed with him, not the other way around.  Why do you accuse me of CoS tactics but not him, when he so clearly conformed to their ideas?  I might add that the thrust of sqrl's argument appears to be that because I don't think it is fair to do a hatchet job on all members of the CoS without accountability and without a court judgement, I'm clearly a member of the CoS or at least a sympathiser?  Wouldn't you say he is adopting the very same tactic Scientologists do in the last sentence of that quote?

At the end of the day all I have done in this thread is defend two facts:

1.  Everyone has the right to question their accuser, and everyone should be innocent until proven guilty (by a legal entity, not by a mask-wearing mob).

2.  It is not official Scientology policy to murder and extort it's critics (note that I didn't once say that this means they don't do it, or that it isn't unofficial policy.  I just objected to the stupidity of people like PooperScooper that claimed to have read "official" CoS policy that declared it was cool to murder detractors)

 

I thank you for not attacking me like the others did and simply putting your query to me.  Is there any other confusion over or questions about my opinion Final-Fan?