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ethomaz said:

jetforcejiminy said:

not clear what sony's ridiculous "sold through" nonsense actually means, so i'd keep your powder dry on that score, at least for the time being.

but since my thinking is delusional, why don't you enlighten me with your rational predictions? and what are they, ps4 150m? because someone in this thread predicted that the ps4 will sell more in 2015 than it has sold since its launch. by a lot. if i'm the delusional one, we'll have to find a new word for those people. and perhaps yourself, depending on what figure you give.

More clear impossible.

Sold to consumers... you, me and others gamers lol

PS4 will sell more in 2015 than it sold in 2014... that is certain... so you can expect someting between 15 and 20 million for 2015... Sony will give you a Forecast next quarter.

we're in agreement about the low-end of your prediction. i think it's more like 15-17m, which is what led me to say 33-35m by the end of 2015. no way is it doing 20. i just don't see it when microsoft is quickly catching up (or trying to) in america and the wii u is beating the ps4 in japan. europe is its only hope, and europe has been in depression/recession (depending on the place) since 2007, with negative growth projected across the board in 2015.