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JWeinCom on 11 January 2015
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Ruler said:
JWeinCom said:
Ruler said:
JWeinCom said:

Not since 1984.  In the US at least.   You can still sell stock as a way of loss selling, but that's never going to offset your actually losses.  Any way you try to spin it losing money over an extended period of time is a bad thing.  It's not like loss selling is helping Sony anyway as a quick look at their debt will tell you.  Of course bringing up selling losses is a way for you to complicate things.  Don't bring up a simplistic example, then make it more complicated later.  It's a dishonest bit of rhetorical trickery.

no you dont understand they can sell their devisions that make loses
Uhhh they can, but you're not going to make a profit off of those sales.  Whose going to buy a division that's bleeding money unless they're going to get a great deal?

I'm really not sure what you're trying to say.  But, I'll just respond with this.  Companies can do a lot of things.  None of those things are going to change the fact that making money is objectively better than losing money.  

for who? share holders and bloomberg propaganda channel of them? You should ask why is that these folks always wanting profits in the first place? 

The reality is the bigger you are so better it is. People bought vaio devision from sony which made tons of loses. And it was some obscure company/foundation like Japan Industrial Partners so how you explain that? Sony got money and dont have to make loses anymore, now the only thing that makes loses is the smarthphone devision everything else made and makes profits. Either way they sell it or they keep it while the Playstation devision will make up for it dueto the success of the ps4.

Nintendo cant allow itself to fuck up, what can they sell? What do they own? They only have a gaming devision which is also smaller than sonys. 


Ummmmmm... they want profits because money is used to buy stuff?  Would you rather have money or not have money?  I'm not sure what you're getting at.  Unless you're making a counterculture argument that money is the root of all evil and that all Sony needs is love, I'm legitimately dumbfounded.  

People bought Vaio from Sony because they got it for cheap.  And Sony didn't get money from that.  They actually lost A BILLION DOLLARS http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-14/sony-unexpectedly-forecasts-loss-amid-restructuring-costs-tvs.html on that deal. It's like, if you bought a computer for five thousand dollars and sold it to me for 1000 dollars.  

You know what Nintendo owns?  Cash.  Nintendo has about 5 billion dollars in cash, and another 5 billion or so in other liquid assets.  Because of a history of good financial decisions that made them money, they now have enough to survive when things like the Wii U happen.