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johnlucas said:
Intrinsic said:
this would have been am awesome post and an even more awesome ongoing series if not for the heavy Nintendo bias. kinda makes every point you're trying to make predictable. oh, that last point, how could you possibly with a clear head soil put that up with what's clearly happening in the industry right now?


Well reality has a Nintendo bias. I can't help that.
Test the FACTS I put out before you. Where are the holes in my presentation? You'll find none.
I laid it out very logically & I knew there were things many people hadn't thought about like that Second System thing.

I hear that all the time with Wii U & heard it all the time last generation with Wii.
People think they're giving a backhanded compliment when they say that about a platform but in actuality it's the biggest advantage a console can ever have.
They say it like "Well, you can't compete with the big boys but maybe we'll throw you a bone since we feel sorry for you."
I laughed when I heard all those Wii60 guys last generation. I even heard a few PSWii comments too.

Here's a 2008 N4G post spelling out this phenomenon right before your eyes. Check the comments to see it in action.
Wii60 or PSWii?

Even better here's a 2006 article from QJ.net referencing both Sony & Microsoft executives talking about Wii as a complementary console to their own.
This was WELL BEFORE both PS3 & Wii launched. Article posted on May 16, 2006.
Perrin Kaplan Likes the Idea of Wii60 and PSWii

I'm gonna quote from the article here:

"Peter Moore made headlines when he publicly advocated the Nintendo Wii. Later on, wanting to look like the "better man" as well, Phil Harrison said the same thing. They both think that Wii would perfectly complement their own systems. Well, what does Nintendo have to say about this? Perrin Kaplan talks about this whole "Wii60" and "PSWii" alliance systems."

Perrin was so smart in this interview. She recognized that these guys were falling right into their trap.
Just type in 'Peter Moore Wii60' into a search & see what you find.
The guy went on & on about the "Wii60 Movement"! Hahahahaha
They didn't know whether to dismiss Wii or embrace it in bandwagon fashion.
It's like they sort of did both! Hahahaha!
Giving it a backhanded compliment saying "complementary console" yet trying to look cool buddying up with it.

And that's how Wii got those sales.

As for the "Right Now" you talked about.
In May 2014, "Right Now" had PS4 outselling XOne & Wii U combined in America.
In December 2014, XOne was outselling PS4 in America.
"Right Now" is not set in stone, Intrinsic.

I can't just look at how things are NOW. I have to look at how things Will Be LATER.
In 2005 "Right Now" said that MySpace would be the King of Social Networks.
What is MySpace today 10 years LATER?

Don't worry. Even though many of my points will reference Nintendo in these FACTS vs. FICTION writings, all of them are not about Nintendo.
So stay tuned for future volumes.

John Lucas

With this thread, how sure you seem to be and after all the typing you have done? I hope for your sake you are right.

Just to be clear though, you are saying that at the ed of this generation the wiiiU would have sold the most right?