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mai on 11 January 2015
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tiffac said:
mai said:

If China is clear and present danger while the US (or rather global oligarchy) is not it's only a sign of political shortsightedness. Don't take my word for granted, you may research the history of that limitroph-o-land between Russia's and Germany's borders before and during WW2. So you could get an idea of the historical fate of various proxies, which for the most part were ruled by nationalistic, revanchist or fascistic regimes at the time. E.g. the fate of 2nd Polich Republic should be the most revaling -- annex part of Czechoslovakia along with Germany and Hungary only to follow the same fate next year -- probably nor Moscicki, nor Rydz-Smigły would have thought that's a possibility. I beg a pardon in advance, I'm no expert in Philippine-American political affairs, but from here Philipines do look like typical US client state and therefore a proxy.

Consider this, how much from 40bln Uncle Sam owes you is going to be paid, ever? Compare credit and emission based economy of the US to the Chinese one that produces actual commodities and therefore could pay with real wealth.

I have no idea what that has anything to do with China taking and claiming territories here in Asia... like I said China has no excuse on that one.

If you want to put the US as the ultimate evil, hay go ahead man I ain't defending them but don't turn a blind eye on China too because they are acting like the US you hate right now.

The Philippines is the ass-kisser* of whoever country has money. We even agreed on China that Taiwan was part of it before China went ape on territorial waters. That's how bad my country is, so take everything you see with a grain of salt, especially on relations. It depends on the administration.

If history teaches us only one thing -- it teaches us nothing -- then yes, sure, no parallels at all.

I'm not calling the US an ultimate evil, I've even corrected myself: "or rather global oligarchy" -- it just easier reformulate the point in the reality of nation-state of the US and its interests rather than talking about vague topic of the oligarchs and their interests. To an extent we're in the same boat with Americans as they'll be much poorer in years to come regarldess if they "win" or "lose" that war. But as long as oligarchy uses US emission center and military at their own advantage I consider these two concepts are practically interchangeable.

Ideally the following conflicts that are bound to happen should be perceived by the public not like "US vs Russia", "US vs China" or even "US vs the World", but "Oligarchy vs the World".