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Ruler on 08 January 2015
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JEMC said:
Ruler said:
JEMC said:

First of all, Steam OS is only available as a Beta and while anyone can download it, it is not the full version of it. After all, those 300 prototypes they sent one year ago were all equiped with Nvidia GPUs because the Steam OS didn't work with AMD cards at that time. That's something that they'll have to fix for launch.

Secondary, the Steam Controller, meant to be used with the Steam Machines is yet to be launched and we'll only hear more of it (likely the final form and features it will have) during the next GDC in March.

So, because of the two above points it is clear that any PC that sells today under the "Steam Machine" moniker is "only" a regular PC. Wait until we hear about the release date for the "final" version of the Steam OS and the controller, and which specs will have to have those PCs to be able to be called Steam Machines and then how it sells once it launches. Only then we'll be able to say if it wil flop or not.

And by the way, I'm one of those that think it will flop, but until the proper machines are launched it's only my opinion, not a fact.

here is a good video explaining why the steam machine will flop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydIm5zz--S0

Bolded: Thanks for agreeing with me that they WILL flop, not that they HAVE ALREADY flopped as you said and which was the reason I replied to your comment.

 

I already said that I think they will flop and, quite frankly, that video is laughable. I only watched the first 3 minutes but that was already enough for me.

"This is the last gen of consoles"? Of course not! Time (and Nintendo) will prove him wrong. "A console is defined by being a machine with physical media"? Ridiculous. "They should be separate from any service"? Xbox Live and PS Plus say hi! They are mandatory services to play online. "Steam Machines and 3DO are the same"? Oh c'mon! One was a fixed and licensed (to be payed) hardware with no software while the other is a free operating system to be used by whoever wants. Yep, they are pretty much the same...

xbox live and ps+ you say? so what makes these services different than any other gaming service like steam or google play? Are these devices who run these services now also consoles?

What makes consoles to this day different is the fact i can play and buy physical media. No any other of these devices and services have such an impact on retail that their games could be successfully displayed in shelfs. 

3DO and steam machines are pretty much the same, 3DO basicly allowed everyone one to built their version of 3DO consoles. Thats why you see samsung, panasonic, sanyo and goldstar (LG) who have built these consoles.

Because 3DO never made any just like Valve isnt making their own steam machines. And thats one of the reasons why they will also flop because these 13 different manufactors will try to make profit out from your purchase.

Its not like alianware for example will get any money if you buy games on their device on steam? or if you buy valves contoller? Thats why the alianware alpha is allready overpriced in comparison to a ps4, sony just designed the ps4 so they could make only 20$ profit because they can still get money from you if buy their accessories, services, games (license fee) etc. While alianware for example clearly made their consoles to 200-250$ profit.

 

Thats why the 3DO to this day is one of the most expensive consoles ever released. The Neo Geo which was a real arcade machine at the time and came 3 years earlier was only more expensive. You allready can see steam machines cant compete with PS4 and Xbox 1s price point and going upwards there is no point why you shouldnt just built a windows pc in the first place.

 

Steam machines will be one of the biggest flops/failures in history, mark my words