MaximusOptimus said:
starcraft said:
PooperScooper said:
Flow said:
I wholeheartedly agree with the right of being presumed innocent until proven guilty, and there they are, proved guilty. That's what we are trying so long to show you. Anonymous doesn't go around screaming "GUILTY!", they present the proof just like ssj12 did, and i bet many other anonymous are doing everywhere else. Also i would love to see a real trial to finally leave the church alone or finish it. Probably the latter will happen. |
funny thing is innocent until proven guilty only matters in the court of law. He is treating this like a trial. when in fact it isnt. there is a certain point when repeat circumstantial incidents becomes substantial. And in fact hearsay only again matters in trial. Also this is coming from people who experience first hand. This is first hand knowledge and not hearsay. and lets not forget starcraft was orginally saying that CoS had a right to confront their accusers when they do not. | I'm still saying that. Why do you not think that a person or group accused of murder and extortion has a right to question their accuser and why do you think they have no right to due process?
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I do not know what laws you have down under but here in America, this right to face your accuser only applies to the court room. If CoS was put on trial then they would face their accusers. This does not apply to protesters or any other aspect of life outside the court room. Maybe in Canada and Australia this is different and if the protest occur there then i may be true. But any protest in America give no right to CoS to face their accusers. |
Even in the court room if you don't want to testify YOU DO NOT HAVE TO! It is your right to deny to testify. However if you are the make or break witness/testimony of the prosecutor/defenses case then it is their right/duty to subpoena you.
Also you can anonymously tip off the DA/police. If they don't even know who tipped them they don't have to provide that person. They could build a strong enough case without the tipsters name.