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Dusk said:
DonFerrari said:
Dusk said:


They are still loosing money on each console sold right now, with how well it has been selling, unless they need the boost in sales again why would they take more of a cut? Please don't assume to know what I know, I never said that consoles don't become cheaper to manufacture over time. 

Software sales have been down YOY from everything I have read, add that to the rising cost of game development and it seems like a fairly educated guess. Perhaps I should say the profits from the games though as opposed to my prior stance. I do wonder how well the digital sales are doing on the new platforms with the increasing size of the games though, 40GB can be quite a lot for many people with limited bandwidth. Likely the best case scenario is that sales YOY are roughly the same with digital sales included. 

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-11-14-up-to-25-percent-of-ps4-xbox-one-game-sales-are-digital-analyst


DO a little research before downplaying and bashing... Sony already confirmed they had a little profit with each HW like 6 months ago (in launch the sale of 2 games or 1 game and PS+ already made profit) So by next year holidays 50 off will still be profitable and 100 will need some games sold to profit... And as discussed before Sony took 300 loss per console during PS3 launch, so don't base Sony willingness or capacity to pricecut on your perceived notion of loss and Sony financial situation.


Before the price drop. That is why they were able to drop the price. It's normal business tactics dude. Sony screwed themselves on the massive losses they took with the PS3 when it was released. Sony is also in a much worse financial situation than they were at that point in time, it would not only be irresponsible for the business to take massive losses on the console, but it would also be crazy. 

I do research. Relax man. My theory is that there is a good chance it will not sell as well in 2015 as it did in 2014, you have a differing opinion. There is no longer any point in debating about this as we see things from different sides. 

I haven't been bashing btw, in fact, I have said many times that Sony has done extremely well in 2014, quite amazing really.


They still got losses after some of the pricedrops, as far as I remember Sony just started profiting from PS3 on 2011 (and that isn't from HW alone) so they took the bullet every time it was necessary to make sells meet projections. And about Sony financials, at the time they were losing more than 1B a year and still done it, right now they are on the profit side (discounting the mobile right off) so the situation is a little less worse than before.

In fact after you done your good research you could look for an interview were Kaz said growing marketshare for PS4 rapidily were the priority not the profit in the first years.

Of course Sony objective isn't taking massive loss per console. But when right now Sony is already profiting on HW (when at launch they needed the sales of 2 games or 1 game and PS+ to profit) there is little to say in one more year they won't be making ps4 cheap enough to make a 50 cut with no losses or a 100 with small losses covered by 1 or 2 game sale.

So your theory isn't a theory, is just an opinion or wishfull thinking since you just say sony won't cut the price because they are poor and would lose money they can't afford (while showing no evidence for it) and that since they sold too much in 2014 they can't sell better in second year.

So if you preffer I agree in stop discussing this, if you just accept you have been making FUD with 0 facts or evidence. If you are a Sony supporter, you are one bad informed and pessimistic beyond reality.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."