By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
sc94597 on 31 December 2014
Edit Thread
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sc94597 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sc94597 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sc94597 said:

Hes right, if you want to look at true value its $400 and declining by the years. With the Kinect its $500. The Kinect has nothing to do with PC gaming outside of being an add on, so if you're going to compare value for value its $400 or less until January 3rd and even by next year Microsoft will most likely drop the price again being that they are losing. The PS4 will stay at a solid $400 and both console prices will decline. 

If we want to look at true value we can include the 100s of things a PC has thar is not relevant to gaming but is included in the package. There was no kinectless sku back when this article was written. If you wanted to buy an Xbone you had to spend approximately $550. Just because it had hardware nobody wanted is no excuse. The same can be said with the extra features PCs have.

No. Consoles don't need to prove themselves PC gaming, they only hold them back (in terms of ports) since console gamers pay for the major AAA iterations that hit PC and they are made for consoles with lesser graphics. They live a simple existence where you can just pick up and play games simply and enjoy a unified OS made for gaming and multimedia. PC's have gained a lot of ground that the lost at the beginning of last gen through Valve and because of that people can finally show what PC has to offer. Regardless of the sales of the Xbox One at launch we're talking about base price based on parts. The Kinect is not a part of it even though I understand your point. Now that Microsoft stopped forcing it upon people there is a proper competitive price with the PS4. Between October to January 3 the Xbox One was $400-350.....so show me a high powered PC that can be put together for those prices even at 900p on NVidia or AMD. The PS4 is the same price. 

$450 seems about the cheapest for a PC that can perform as well as the PS4 right now. 

http://www.reddit.com/r/PCMasterRace/wiki/builds

Look at the next-gen crusher option. It is priced at $376 without the OS and Mouse+Keyboard. One can find an OS easily for about $40 (or less with work) and a mouse + keyboard that is decent for $30. That brings the total price after tax to $446 (no tax if you order from a company that isn't in your state in the U.S.) A console will cost about $428 in my state (7% sales tax.) That is a $18 difference, assuming no rebates. 

As for capabilities, the graphics card will be able to play AC Unity at high 1080p or ultra 900p @ 30fps and 26-30fps respectively. It might need a little bit extra ram, but since the card has 2gb VRAM, and the most I've experienced my system ram being used by modern games is about 2.5 gb, I think it would get by with only 4gb system ram for at least 5 years or so.  Remember AC Unity has drops on Xbone and especially PS4 at 900p as well. 

Interesting. Now in the spirit of all things PC master race how do you get average consumers who like console games to like PC exclusives? This is where it gets interesting. Once Sony joined the industry console gaming numbers for the whole market expanded by leaps and bounds. How can PC gaming achieve this so console gaming loses popularity and consoles find a need compete with PC rather than just sharing some ports. We've all seen it...Gabe Newell is out to prove that PC can pull off the console experience. It probably can....but for some reason its just not catching on like its supposed to. Again...social issue. As I said...once a console gamer who goes to PC gets the bug...they will eventually start upgrading the hardware. They'll enjoy all that valve can offer and they'll start investing in their rig. The average PC replacement time is 3.5 years (you can actually look that up)....while a consoles is six to ten years....so on average...you're actually paying double (And sometimes even triple the cost )within a lifetime of a consoles lifespan in upgrades as well as replacing the whole system sometimes. I don't know one core PC gamer who isn't on top of their hardware like a car enthusiast is to his car.

As I said. PC maintence > Games. The major reason why the games are cheaper too compared to consoles is because 9/10 you cant buy physical. Brick and mortar mostly dont support it. Kudos to Best Buy for trying harder than Gamestop though. Gamestop gave up because they cant resell it.  They probably werent selling many non-WOW games for PC either. 

As for exclusives. A lot of PC gamers boast about PC exclusives, but they love games like Halo, Gears, Uncharted, Mario, and more and i've even heard many of them get frustrated because they wished exclusives were all on PC. Of course they would. Console gamers wont complain if they get PC exclusives, but they aren't demanding it like PC gamers demand console exclusives.


Well the average replacement time is 3.5 years beacuse PC gamers have the option, not because they need to upgrade every 3.5 years. Console gamers don't have the upgrade option, and therefore must stay with the same console for 6-10 years. That is why console gamers are so excited when a new console is released. For at least the last 3 years of their platform they've been waiting for an upgrade. That doesn't mean a PC gamer can't keep their PC for 6 years and play the games they want on it. Many PC gamers do accomplish that. It just means that they wish to upgrade and do so because it is an option a console gamer doesn't have. I'm a PC gamer who never is an enthusiast. The last PC I built was in 2008, and then I built my new one this year (I bought a laptop that could play games in between.) My PC's have always been mid-end. The first card for my 2008 PC was a 8600gt, and the last card was a 9800gt (when it was outdated.) I played games on that PC for 5 years. This year I decided I wanted an upgrade. My card is a r9 280x, and my PC cost me $500. I've never met many PC gamers, but the ones I have met don't spend more than $800 on their PC. Now I do plan to upgrade my processor, but I bought a cheap processor in the first place ($55 G3258, cost $100 for it and my z97 motherboard.) 

As for exclusives, the same is entirely true for console gamers. There are Sony gamers who want to play Zelda, Mario, and Metroid. There are Nintendo gamers who want to play Uncharted, The Last of Us, and Ratchet and Clank. Exclusives are found on all platforms. For PC gamers you have exclusives like Starcraft, DOTA, WoW, etc, etc to consider. And there are console gamers who would like to play those games as well (if they have a PC for those games, shouldn't that cost of their PC be added to their gaming budget?)