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michael_stutzer said:
ofrm1 said:

The cost of a mouse and keyboard is around 5 dollars at a thrift store. You might even be able to find a monitor there for 30 dollars as well. Windows is $65 and it unnecessary as you can use Linux.

It's important to know that they really haven't done much of any work. They just went to pcpartpicker, which really does all the work for you.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ofrm1/saved/2c8zK8

That's actually a more expensive build, too. I could have cut several corners and dropped the price more than $50.

Just goes to show you that price is no longer an argument for consoles as they easily will cost more than a pc will.

You can't do a comparison like that. If you include 5$ keyboard and mouse, you should substract the price of the DS4 and add a 5$ gamepad. My mouse was 50$ and DS4 costs about the same.

Also how is Windows unnecessary? Very few games  support Lİnux ( though it is improving). With a quality mouse, keyboard, and 65$ Windows, you are way over console price. 

No offense, but your mouse isn't the standard here. You can find mice for free, but I actually figured people wouldn't be that thrifty. What do you mean add a $5 gamepad? Are you saying replace the DS4 with some crappy gamepad? Can you even do that? I don't own a PS4, so I don't know, but I figured the system would be closed to their controllers, or dedicated third party manufacturers like madcatz, in which case they'd be cheaper than the DS4, but still at least $30, likely $40. Either way, you can't find a regular DS4 for $5, but you can find a mouse and keyboard for free, or for $5, and this isn't hard. It's remarkably easy.

As far as Linux support for games:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2824526/steam-for-linux-tops-700-games-as-big-name-games-increasingly-call-it-home.html

And that's just for steam alone. SteamOS is linux-based, so of course support for Linux has been expanding for the last year.

As far as I'm concerned, my comparison is more than fair.  Not to mention that I'm going a more eccentric route by avoiding AMD and insisting on Haswell with the G3258 which results in the build being more expensive. If I had gone AMD, I would have shaved off at least $50. So the notion that you can't beat a PS4 for $450 is just wrong. Sorry, but since the Maxwell graphics cards have come out, the AMD has slashed the prices of their entire line, meaning that you can get a cheap AMD CPU, and a cheap AMD GPU which tend to be the most expensive parts on a PC by a wide margin. If we up the price to $550, the performance gulf expands greatly as an r9 280x is in price-range then, and that will run laps around the consoles.