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Aeolus451 said:
rioskenny1 said:
Aeolus451 said:
What if Heaven is some sort of trap? Will we still have "Free" will?

Most likely, it's not. Lucifer disobeyed god and rebelled while in heaven. Isn't that a sign of free will while in heaven? That also makes you wonder, if you could fall from heaven.

Didnt god sent him to hell after that? If so thats not free will at all.



Actually, god created hell for him and the one third of all angels that rebelled. It's still free will. It's like telling a child not to get into the cookie jar. The child has the choice of getting into it or not but that kid might have to deal with whatever good or bad that might come from that choice.

Well for me it feels more like a political game, I dont like obama too much so i decide to create my own political party and 1/3 of obama followers join me. Obama gets scared that i may take most of his loyal followers so he puts me in jail and everyone else who batrayed him for all eternity, that way he can show the 2/3 of his followers what would happen to them if they stop believing in obama.