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Jon-Erich said:
Ruler said:
Jon-Erich said:
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Oh boy Russia, lol the country that "annexes" a sovereign region in Georgia and Ukraine and seems ready to restart its conquest of Eastern Europe.

USA annexed soveign parts of serbia. And besides that ukraine and georgia broke up from the soviet union which was also against the sovereigny of the soviet union like america violated the sovereignty of britain 300 years ago.

I don't know what you're talking about with Serbia, but you seem to lack an understanding of both history and what soverignty means. First, while many Soviet Republics had declared their independence in 1990 and 1991, they all had one final meeting to formally dissolve the Soviet Union and declare themselves the Commonwealth of Independent States. So that breakup was perfectly legal. Second, America didn't violate Britain's sovernty. Since the British still considerd America to be their territory, it was more like a domestic dispute within the British Empire. That dispute came to an end in 1783 when the British Empire agreed to let America be free. If anything, the French were the ones who violated Britain's sovereignty since they were an outside force who participated in the American Revolution against the British. 


Nope they hadnt such a meeting. US violated Britains sovereignty, britain agreed to nothing, you won your indepence with war just like the people in donbass are fighting for. So france is resposible for american indepence ? lol so why arent you playing national hymne of france during independence day?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1787_in_the_United_States

You declared kosovo independent, its terriotory of serbia

Again, what happened between the US and Britain was a demostic dispute. This dispute was ended with a peace treaty in 1783 between the US, Britain and France where Britain agreed to let go of America and recognize America's independence. Your link is about what happened in 1787. That was the year when the US ratified the constitution that it currently lives under. That has nothing to do with the end of the American Revolution since the constitution that the US was living under during the American Revolution was the failed Articles of Confederation. Since you like wikipedia, here's an article that talks the meeting you said that never happened. I will also agree that what's going in Ukraine is pretty much the same thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Paris_(1783)

Domestic wars of independence happen a lot. Sometimes they're successful, sometimes they're not. Also, you ask why we never play France's national hymne on our Independence day? It's the same reason Western Europe doesn't play the American National Anthem on V.E. Day. It's not our song. We have ours just like they have theirs. 

Since you brought up Kosovo, I know what you're talking about.....sort of. See, the US didn't declare Kosovo's independence. They declared it themselves and the US along with other countries simply recognized it. Recognizing one nation or territory has nothing to do with violating another country's sovereignty. Had the US actually invaded Serbia and declared Cosovo as a nation, then that would have been considered a violation of Serbia's soverignty


-yeah sure America won ww2? 

-So why is russia recognizing abchasia and south ossetia violating georgias sovereignty? Or recognizing the crimean vote who want to be a part of russia?

- so invading serbia and not declaring kosovo as indepdent is okay?


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- donbass people fighting for sovereinty is okay as long as they win the fight and ukraine is forced to reconzie it just like uk recognized us state? so that makes your founding fathers terrorists because thats what american media is calling the rebels in eastern ukraine?