Lawlight said:
pepharytheworm said:
| setsunatenshi said:The discussion has been from the beggining about parental rights AFTER BIRTH. There's no one arguing that there are equal decision rights on the woman's body or her fetus pre birth.
I believe you were the first person to bring it up and then decided to attack that position that I have failed to see anyone else hold.
The conversation is about equal rights after birth and mostly about the chance for a man to abstain from being a father or have the same rights over the child post birth as the woman does. Again before you decide to keep the straw man going.
PRE BIRTH - the woman has 100% rights over the child in my view.
POST BIRTH - both have equal rights over the child. 50-50.
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The op brought up abortion as one of the ways in which women can absolve responsibility and men can't. No one is saying men and women shouldn't have equal rights after birth either. Has anyone stated men shouldn't have custody or visitation? That women shouldn't pay for their child? Or that women can walk away after birth and men can't?
This whole argument is based on the "extra rights" women have that deal with their own bodies. Please tell me how a man can absolve himself in the same way if he can't be pregnant? Tell me a fair way in which a man can absolve his reponsibility.
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Btw to correct you just because a woman is pregnant for 9 months doesn't mean that she can get an abortion at any stage. I believe it's illegal to get one after 24 weeks.
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How are you correcting me? When did I mention women can get an abortion at any stage?
