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ganoncrotch said:

Very strange with the thoughts on abortion, while it's true that if the father wants to have the kid and the mom doesn't there is nothing in the law to stop her from just going and getting it terminated, if it was the other way around and the dad wanted the kid aborted against the mothers wises there would be outrage.

The argument isn't (or, hopefully not), that men should be allowed to force women into abortions, that's barbaric. But if women are allowed to absolve themselves from legal responsibility, then men should be able to, too (ie, not be considered the "father" anymore).