Maraccuda said:
Samus Aran said:
No reason to hate individual persons for this. But I don't think anyone with a right mind can condone Islam as a state religion or any other religion that is terribly outdated.
The best Islamic country to live in is Turkey (although that might change if Erdogan keeps fucking up), a state where church and state are seperated. The sad fact however is that in many Islamic countries state and church are not seperated. It's another sad fact that many Islamic countries are terrible places to live in.
I often hear muslims say that "real" muslims don't kill other people. I respond to them by saying that their prophet Muhammed isn't a real muslim then because the first thing he did when he became leader of Yathrib (renamed Medina) was slaughter most of the Jewish Arab tribes that lived there. No true Scotmans fallacy... Koran and the bible are very dangerous books in the hands of religious fanatics. Books like these are terribly outdated and should have no influence on modern society. People who have no knowledge of the historical context these books were written in shouldn't be allowed to read it! But good luck banning the Koran and Bible...
I say this as a historian with a deep fascination for Islamic history and religion in general. I have a deep dislike for any monotheistic religion (as an institute) as it only promotes intolerance. Gay people were better off in Roman society 2000 years ago than in modern day Islamic world or Russia... Sad fact.
2000 years ago Man-man sexual relations were considered the best in the Roman world. How quickly things change. We have Christianity and Islam to thank for that.
Islamic world 7th-15th century was much better off than Christian Europe. They were even more tolerant of other religions. What happened?
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Most definitely Church and State should be two separate things. Though I am surprised to hear there is a place where Islam isnt law.
Oh dont get me started. The way they treat women is terrible, even if is part of their religion it is still shameful. Honestly if any practice of any religion goes against the law then they should get punished.
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Yeah, I kept my post relatively civil because I don't feel the need to get banned over my strong convictions. :D
But the Taliban killing 130 children recently in Pakistan is just... Uhhhh, news like that pisses me off too much. Best I keep civil here like I said!
