It's time to accept it, XBO has won the US this gen

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true_fan said:
So can you also admit the only reason why the ps4 is ahead is because of price, since that is what you are saying about XB1.

Of course price is a factor. If the PS4 ever became 200$, boom, Sony wins, if the Xbox One became 200$, boom, Microsoft wins. Pricing is a part of a consumer's consideration, and the less outright loyalty or interest they have in one particular platform, the stronger these considerations become, especially when doing the 'Well, I could either buy a console, OR a console and x number of games' judgement.

However, you might be forgetting that some of the price advocates (i.e., the 'PS4 is only winning because...') cited price insomuch as advancing the idea that it was the PS4's price ADVANTAGE that led to it pulling ahead in the U.S., back when the Kinect model Xbox One was the only one available and left it a hundred dollars more expensive. However, when June came, and both consoles were equal in price and value (i.e. no clear-cut lead in terms of bang for buck, before the Madden bundle released in August,) the PS4 continued to outsell the Xbox One in the U.S. even IN June, when the Xbox One would have had a sales boost from the initial Kinectless SKU launch.

So, yes, price is indeed a factor, but the same can be said for essentially any product. However, the PS4 was not solely ahead 'because of price,' because you're neglecting the four months it won after price was no longer a consideration, including the months when the Xbox One was, from a value perspective, 'cheaper.' =P And to be fair, there is always a chance that the Xbox One, with its bundles, game releases, etc, would have won November anyway, although obviously by a smaller margin. But since the Xbox One's win just happens to coincide with the same month they dropped the price, they'd need to chalk up at least a couple of victories on even pricing ground with the PS4, in the same way the PS4 had its victories against the Xbox One, to similarly distance itself from 'Because Price' accusations.

 

Anyway, on topic, assuming Microsoft does have the price advantage 'forever and ever,' while it will definitely help their chances, they've still got challenges ahead, including what's currently looking like a bare boned early to mid 2015 period. Unless the plan is to give away ALL the games they have marketing deals in for free in bundles on each and every release, (and God knows, given how things are going, there's actually a good chance they will,) their lack of exclusive content could let Sony start widening the gap again after the holidays. And since the holidays, while certainly giving Microsoft a chance to narrow the gap considerably, isn't tracking quite well enough to let them close it by the end of the holidays, this might turn into a game of sales leapfrog. =P