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Materia-Blade on 05 December 2014
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KLAMarine said:
Materia-Blade said:

taking away life seems the perfect punishment for those who take life away.

who's talking about health problems? what they did was absurd and illegal, it doesn't matter if the victim is healthy or not.

You're missing the point: you want to intentionally take multiple lives away as retribution for a death that was unintentional. Doesn't seem fair to me to punish an unintentional act as though it were intentional. In courts of law, they are treated differently: if you accidentally kill someone, courts will not treat it as though it were intentional. That's how it is in many things in life: when I was a kid, if I accidentally hurt someone on a playground, I was given a warning and made to apologize to the unintended victim. If I intentionally hurt someone because I was being a brat, I would get the belt or detention, whatever the case may be. That's how I was raised as a matter of fact.

Landguy said:
I wonder if there is another version of this video that isn't edited. I have watched the same video on 3 different websites. about 6 or 7 seconds after the "chokehold" is put on him, the video stops and restarts from a different perspective. During that timelapse, what happened? Was he release of the chokehold or did it persist? How long was the timelapse? If he was only chokeheld for 12-15 seconds, then you can hardly call the police involved murderers. This seems to be more of an incredible accident than murder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzySgv6tx4g

Clip starts at around 2:02. The chokehold lasts about 20 seconds (2:40-3:00 being generous) which, even if it completely cut off breathing for a whole 20 seconds, the hold was not maintained for long enough to kill. Hell, everyone here should be able to hold their breath for 20 seconds and beyond.

Landguy said:
The problem is that even if it is an accident, that does not absolve the police of the result. Nor does it absolve the criminal from not committing the crime to begin with. No crime=No death. I do agree that there still should be some consequence for the whole thing for the police officers involved.

I agree but my worry is that some may believe the chokehold itself was responsible for the death but it was in fact a multitude of factors including Garner's health problems which were unintentionally aggravated by the confrontation. Notice I don't place blame solely on Garner's health nor on the confrontation. You needed both for Garner's passing to occur.

omg, it wasn't an accident. it was MURDER. anyone can understand that a bunch of people on top of someone else can kill the person, especially when there's already a piece of sh#t choking him. they attacked and killed someone.