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gergroy said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
method114 said:
This country needs to focus on getting good teachers and properly funding the school system before we add anymore test for these kids. My daughter is literally having to share books because the school cant afford anymore. I thought it was cause her school isn't in the best part of town but then my cousin who lives in one of the richest areas around has been dealing with the same thing. They literally make photocopies of the book for the kids to take home. So they can afford to waste all that paper but just buying the book is to much.


funding schools is a waste of money. thas the conclusion i have come to after doing interviews with students for a sociology class i had (college). you would be amazed how much of these people are blithering idiots who cannot form a coherent setence,  thought, or idea. funding the school isnt going to make a difference in any of that. if youre talking pre-college,  then yes, maybe those schools should b funded enough to at least not force students to share books, but ill tell you that real learning occurs when you want it to. we have so many resources at our disposal,  and we cant blame the fact that we have dumb students because of low funding in schools. thats just shifting responsobility. 

i say give these students the test whether they learn it in school or not. they can learn it on their own. im telling you, in the real world, youre going to have to look shit up yourself. all the time. we wilk be doing these highschool students a service to not be so fucking reliant on teachers and "funding for schools". 

Speaking as a teacher, they really need to figure out a way to filter some kids into vocational schools/training if they arent going to even try to do academic work.  Nothing is more annoying to me than to have a student that has to come to class because he/she has sluffed too much, but refuses to do any work.  Whats the point of making them go if they dont do anything!  Whats even worse is I have a couple of those types of students on iep's, which means i have to accomdate them by giving them easier work and they still dont do it!

give the kids who dont want to learn some vocational training so they can accomplish something and so that we can actually focus on the students that want to learn!

speaking as somebody who has been going to school for 20 years, i completely agree with you! of course, i believe students should have the choice, but by the time you are just about to graduate, you should have an idea if you are going to continue education or just want to make a modest living learning some kind of trade. 

we need to make high schools more rigorous. and if students cant keep up, or are in danger of failing, maybe we can offer those students a different route. 

my post you were responding to was written as a way to vent about this idea that schools need more funding. and i am just a firm believer in that no amount of funding is going to alter a students ability or drive. and really, we need to ween kids off of using teachers or the classroom as their only source of knowledge and encourage them to take some of the responsibility of learning on themselves. because if youre going to get an education, thats the kind of shit youre going to be expected to do. lets stop shifting the responsibility on teachers and the government for how kids are performing in school and lets focus more of the attention on the students themselves. thats my opinion right now, and it could change as i experience more things, but it seems pretty sound to me.