Microsoft not paying their Indie devs???

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LinkTheHuman said:

Hiku said:

LinkTheHuman said:

I have two conflicting opinions about this. 

1. If the Indies are exclusive, they should get paid as they are creating interest in microsfts console (therefore demand). 

2. However if they are not exclusive they shouldn't get paid, my reasoning behind this is that if they want to get taken seriously in media's biggest industry. They shouldn't have to have their hand held by giants like Microsoft and Sony as this isn't how capitiliasm works. They should be considered the same way third parties are, if your not good enough to keep yourself alive then you're a danger to everyone else in the industry (you become a parasite). 

Saying otherwise to option 2 is Commy talk, not that i completely disagree with Communists, but it's either a Communist (like) or Capitilist industry, it can't be both.  

What are you talking about? The indie devs didn't get paid for their share of the game sales. Doesn't matter if the games are exclusive or not. When MS sells their games on their system, the devs also need to get a share of the sale. Otherwise, they're giving away their games for free to MS. And only MS makes a profit. No dev on the planet would agree to a deal like that. So there would never be any non exclusive games on Xbox.

I was reffering to a deal in which indie devs would be paid for exclusivety (this is rare but theoretically possible). And I never said that Indie devs shoudn't get any revenue of software sales. I was instead stating that if an indie dev produces software for all three systems they shouldn't be given money from microsfot as so that they stay alive. why do i bring up giving money to multi platform indie devs? Because it's what playstation is doing, and it's not healthy for a market to lose money giving it to diying devs.  

I see now that i didn't make it clear what tranzitions of money were being made for what purposes and buisness choices were being made by xy companies, my apoligies if that was unclear. 

...kiiiiind of off topic though, considering the entire point here isn't that Microsoft wont give money to developers to 'help them stay alive,' i.e like they're a charity, or paying extra bonuses,  it's that Microsoft hasn't given them their deserved piece of the revenue Microsoft made selling their game in the first place. This is basically someone selling your product on commission, but not giving you any of the money that they made selling your product. Now, if Microsoft both rectifies this quickly, and ideally doesn't pull this kind of shit again, then we'll just call it a black eye for now. But I'm assuming you agree that what Microsoft has done here is, without conflict, a very bad thing. =P