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Zekkyou said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
d21lewis said:
Good. I've always been a fan of comparing whole library vs whole library. Last gen, people wanted my head (perverts) for saying that. It was always "this game doesn't count because it's not exclusive, it's a Kinect game, it's indie, etc.

Now, we can all agree that 360 > PS3 and PS4 > Xbox One.

I missed this gem. Yeah, I am glad downloadable games and even indies available on PC suddenly count again. They need exposure too. I know I was mocked and told I was wrong last year for pointing out MS was supporting the 360 with games like State of Decay, Battleblock, Skulls of Shogun, etc etc. Those games didn't count. Now they do. It's good news.

The double standard goes both ways. Most who previously claimed indies justified the lack of exclusive AAA titles on the 360 suddenly don't believe they're worth including.

Personally, i'm just baffled as to what the hell MS's 1st party have been doing these last few years. Past Halo, Forza and a few Kinect games, they've done very little of note (AAA wise) in almost 4 years. A handful of indie/mini titles doesn't excuse the lack of everything else. Just like how Resogun and the like don't excuse Sony's lack of AAA titles this year (their 2013 effort is a valid reason, but it's not an excuse).

Of course it goes both ways with some. For example, in that thread from July of 2013 or something someone just linked, you posted in there that PC/360 games are irrelevant because most people have PC's. Does that also make a majority of these PS4 games irrelevant in list warz? Apparently so, unless you've changed your mind. The double standard is only relevant because it seems a majority of users here are Sony fans (or, at worst, they vastly outnumber Xbox guys) so it doesn't really matter what Xbox guys say, their posts are outnumbered. So last gen the general consensus here was indie games and "console exclusives" were irrelevant. Now this gen the general consensus has changed, because there are more Sony users here than MS, and now Sony has a lot of those games that were irrelevant in the past.

For the most part I think those of us praising indies last gen on Xbox are still fans of indies. You're way off base there. But our input does not speak for the forum, we are a minority.