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soony_xbone_U said:
DonFerrari said:
You want to discuss oficial numbers? There is nothing to discuss, just accept and move on... But it's funny that even though you claim historically they ship 45% during holidays yous preffere to cut 850k consoles just so they would seem like a smaller number and wouldn't sell through 20M before the year end... seems like quite the well put OP.


What is funny? The only funny thing is u imply me bias.
"Based on the Ps4 launch in Japan and the shortages early this year, i can see this 45% quote being slighly lower for this holiday quarter."

45% is just the average. Sometimes it's higher and sometimes its lower. And this year is the perfect canditate to be below that, because the number for Q1 2014 was unusal high due to Japan launch and even Q3 could be bigger than normal because the biggest new IP launch Destiny and the co-marketing + the white bundle.

Edit:
What do u think? Sell through above 20m until end of 2014 is a given?
And based on what?



So you take 3pp because of japanese release (300k consoles) but ignore that it could be even higher to prevent shortages on holidays... seeing the record breaking numbers one seems more probable than the other... PS4 shipping figures is basically tied with Wii, so I don't why suddenly it would drop just to meet your "prediction".

I think 20M is a possibility, not a certainty, but if going by "opinions" that it will barely ship 20M then that would be impossible.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."