Train wreck said:
RolStoppable said:
thismeintiel said:
While the was PS3 down ~950K throughout the year up to the pricecut, but this was mostly due to MS dropping the 360's entry price to $199 in late '08, which again made the entry price for the PS3 $200 more than the 360.
Actually, I've given you plenty of reasons the PS4 will be fine. You have failed to give me any real reasons it will do poorly.
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Nope, you haven't given any reasons why the PS4 will be fine. Your reasoning for PS4's success is pretty much identical to your reasoning for PSV's success. Specs, a supposedly great launch price and supposedly fantastic third party support.
I've made you aware that third parties will make their games multiplatform on seventh and eighth generation consoles. This pretty much puts the full responsibility for moving PS4s on Sony's first party and whatever exclusive deal they manage to get with third parties. I asked you what games you expect to be ready for launch, a question you have yet to answer. What reason is there for PS3 owners to buy an expensive PS4 when all the big third party games will still be on the PS3? Why would they upgrade to a PS4 when these games are merely PS3 games with higher resolutions and a handful of additional special effects? Why would anybody else choose to buy a PS4 over a PS3 or 360 for that matter?
If it comes down to Sony's first party, then why should anyone believe that the PS4 will be fine? Sony's first party has yet to play a major role in making any of their video game systems a success, so why would it be different this time around, especially after they've closed/restructured several of their studios in the past couple of years? The PSV is reliant on this first party support as well, but Sony's efforts haven't changed the fortunes of the handheld so far. Granted, on the PS4 they will use their first string developers, so the situation isn't going to be as bleak as on the PSV.
Consider this: Third parties aren't going to abandon the 360 and PS3 due to the tiny installed bases of next generation consoles. This will translate to rocky starts for the PS4 and Nextbox which in turn means that third parties will continue to bring their games to seventh generation consoles for a while longer. You should expect that it will take at least two years until third parties at large begin to make eighth generation consoles their lead platform to take full advantage of those systems. Until then there won't be much incentive for consumers to upgrade, because what we know of the PS4 and expect of the Nextbox is anything but exciting. We are going to see a repeat of the transition from the sixth to seventh generation, only this time around with lower sales levels.
Be my guest and explain how Sony will stagger their releases through 2014 to maintain their launch momentum for the PS4, a $400+ system.
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The playstation 4 will be easier to develop for than the PS3 was, so many developers will be able to differentiate last gen and this gen's eye candy. For the big eye candy titles such as Fifa, battlefield, Call of Duty, Madden, NBA2K, Assassin's Creed, etc this will cause a shift in sales from the PS3 to PS4 (and same with xbox). Activision's CEO indicated that sales of COD will fall this year because of that (move to next gen and soft economy)
The PS4, unlike the Vita, will not have any glaring paywall for storage. Unless magically announced, I dont see any extra cost the PS4 will have that is not optional. Vita main problem then and now has been its memory cards (and lack of evergreen games)
I dont see a price war that Nintendo inicated with the Vita prematurely (and guaranteeing gen/gen handheld declines). Both the xbox and PS4 will be price in line(xbox) or lower (PS4) than their prior gen counterparts.
This is Sony's launch titles for the PS3 (US, Japan was worse, Europe was better, 6 months later)
I mean they can piss a better lineup with that.
And my wildcard is Grand Theft Auto 5, even if they announce it multiplat with next gen consoles, if there is a glaring difference, itll add to the PS4 and Xbox numbers.
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