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Burek said:
Giggs_11 said:

1.) You pay for online and although I believe it's not mandatory, about 90%-100% will pay for it. Even the casuals which only play FIFA or CoD will have to.

2.) Not to mention the added value the gamepad has (although heavily criticized, mostly from non wiiu owners) with off tv play. Although this probably doesn't affect everyone, it still affects a lot of people. I've had this girlfriend for more than 7 years now, and the gamepad has been a godsend for me. Before I had WiiU I had to endure all those tv shows, soap operas and the such. Now, while she's watching the reality shows I dreadfully hate, I'm right beside her on BOps II getting ruthless awards. :D

3.) To close it up, people who believe WiiU costs also as much as PS4/X1 are wrong. Yes you get stronger hardware but you also end up spending a lot more.

To address your points:

1.) You are wrong. Probably around 50-60% of people pay for online (going by Sony and MS data). Also, casuals that pay for FIFA, Madden or CoD have to, of course, since those games no longer exist on WiiU. But, ultimately, people are willing to pay $50-$60 per year to have access to all those multiplayer amenities (but you forgott to mention the added bonus of downloadable games, cloud saves and discounts that one subscription nets them).

2.) If the only advantage you can find for the gamepad is reducing boredom with your girlfriend, there are other ways PS4 and XOne owners can do it:

- find a new, more exciting, girlfriend

- if you don't want a switch - make your existing girlfriend a dinner, learn to cook, do house chores, or make an effort to watch those shows with her

- read a book

- use PS4's remote play usinga Vita, Xperia phone or PSTV

- use a Windows Phone to gain achievements

- get a second TV and watch your shows at the same time

- Use your Pc/tablet/phone to access streaming services of your favorite porn shows

3.) So, you spend more for better/stronger hardware? Nothing wrong with that. You also spend more to have more games and a wider variety of games.

 

My conclusion: This is a failed thread, with completely wrong reasons to gripe about voluntary subscription plans. As you say so in the first paragraph: "One should play what satisfies its needs." If subscription plans don't satisfy your needs, don't subscribe.

I don't subscribe to PS+, and still enjoy my console and games on it very much. The only difference, I don't make threads griping about optional payment models.

1) I'm wrong about the % of people, I don't know, I'll give you that, but I'm referring mostly to the people on these forums because this is essentially were I've been reading "WiiU costs almost as much as PS4/X1", and I guarantee you people in here, as avid as thet are gamingwise, about 90%-100% pay for online. As long as FIFA and CoD are concerned, I didn't know they couldn't play it on WiiU since you have at least Fifa13, CoD Bops e CoD Ghosts oit of those. Maybe those 300 hours I have on Black Ops II didn't really happen. Also you can't play MK8 or SSB online, so what? Comparing games or "my console is better than yours" wasn't the point on this thread incase you missed it in the OP

2) This point you made is so out of the line I shouldn't even bother. The point isn't boredom, not even close. Before you go all matrimonial councelor try to understand the topic at hand instead of making seamless insinuations. All your sugestions in this thread are mute and non-related (and paticularly if find some of this offensive tbh) to the OP. The only ones that make sense mean I have to buy Vita, PSTV, or whatever, which is precisely the point I'm making, you pay less with WiiU;

3) I didn't say there was anything wrong with that. More yes I agree, wider variety not so much. Anyway, like said I ain't talking about the games, because that would turn into a quality subjective discussion.

My conclusion: you didn't get the point of the thread and started with the same arguments as usual, like my games this and my games that. I'm not gripin about anything, I'm stating facts that your over-the-top love for one of the companies won't allow you to discern, so you'll continue to pay yearly instalments for your console. Good for you!

As I've seen your a bit biased, I don't care more about your opinion and I won't be replying to you anymore. I find your opinions aren't very constructive. Thank you very much.