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Justagamer on 11 November 2014
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BMaker11 said:
JazzB1987 said:
BMaker11 said:

Shhhhhh! Showing games on better hardware (GC/Wii/XB) having better graphics than the PS2 versions doesn't fit the apparent narrative that the PS2 held back games and no one cared. No no no, these videos are all lies. It's photoshop manipulation. The multiplatform games in the PS2 era looked the same across all platforms because PS2 held back what the others could do. If you think Chaos Theory looked better on Xbox or Resident Evil 4 looked better on Gamecube, you're clearly a biased fanboy who is too blinded by your loyalty to Sony to see that PS2 held games back and they all looked the same.

Pretty hard sarcasm fail dude.

Go check history books and tell me why Xbox esclusives or Gamecube exclusives look so much better on those consoles compared to multiplatform.

As soon as someone says something against the Playstation consoles some people......

You know what go and compare God of War Collection on PS3 to the PS2 games. The world geometry and the character models etc are crap. Why? because the PS2 was WEAK. And so even the HD "remaster" (even if its just a lazy upressed port) is held back by the PS2s flaws.

Another example is Crysis 2 on PC. The consoles are significantly weaker than a PC. And in Crysis 2 the whole geometry was blocky. Battlefield 3 is also a pretty blocky game on PC simply because the consoles held back the PC versions. Having higher resolution etc is irrelevant the PC version suffered due to other hardware being crap.

But sure adding some shaders  to Just Cause or some nice snowflakes to TombRaider (which is basically no work) and keeping the rest basic due to the lowest commen denominator is totally not being held back.....

Explain to me why exclusive games on any console look better than multiplatform games on the same console? I'm pretty sure it's because the dev focuses 100% of their attention on the one console (but what do I know?). So what are you getting at? That because Halo 2 was Xbox exclusive and looks really good, the Xbox version of NFL 2K5 is no longer better than the PS2 version by a country mile? Because that's a silly argument.

Why would I compare a game to its own HD remaster in order to claim some sort of detriment? Especially an exclusive? What does GoW have to do with holding back other games? Yea, the PS2s had its flaws....but to use a game's own HD remaster? What kind of logic is this? Unless they go to the trouble of remastering textures, an HD remaster is, by definition, just an up-res. There's no "holding back" when the intention is to only HDify the game. Would a Jade Empire HD remaster have been some super game with Gears level graphics? Because that's what you're essentially implying (PS2 was weak, so an up-res is "held back"....but an up-res from other consoles' games on different platforms wouldn't be "held back")

And if you really think Crysis PC vs Consoles is comparable then lol, you need glasses. 

And sure, the Xbox/GCN versions of games just added a few extra shaders /s


Well, he specifically said crysis 2...  crysis 1 was created exclusively on pc originally, then later ported to the 360. Crysis 2 was developed with consoles, so it was held back by them. Otherwise, how do you explain that crysis 2 looks worse than part 1 on pc? And as for the splinter cell video, well, that just shows that, damn, the original xbox was a beast of its time. It really did blow the doors off the ps2 in terms of power.