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[prinz_valium]

ICStats said:

prinz_valium said:

most xbl member are on 360, yes. but old subscriptions doent make money for ms right now. thats already accounted in previous earnings.
only if u renew right now its making money for ms. and no1 knows if they do it for the xb360 or xb1. because its one subscription for both. and again. thats why its stupid to think its only the x360 that brings in the profits.

Renewals will happen throughout the year.  Surely you understand it's a random distribution; not everybody sighted up on the same date.  

A quarter of renewals will happen (oddly enough) in this quarter; possibly more due to the season.

There are far more XBL users than there are XB1 owners.  You can't count it for XB1 for people who don't have an XB1.

prinz_valium said:

the only point ur being right, is the games.

yes they sell more games on the xb360 right now. but even that will change this quarter. just look a crossgen sales. more units on current gen than last gen already. 
they only sell more overall 360 games, because of the big libary. but as i said. that will change this quarter

New games on new consoles have higher attach rates due to the smaller library; that's pretty normal.

Yes, XB360 game sales will continue to decline but that doesn't change the fact that it's probably bringing in the bacon right now.

i have live until 2017 i wont renew in the next quarter or year.
most subscribe to live via cards.

just lets assume 3m xbox one owner renew this year
and 3m xb360

or do u think the xb one number is way to high and the xb360 way to low? (even the ps4 has 50% ps+ subscriber. so the xb1 figurs is probably to low)
that would make it even. and thats what i said. its not the x360 only, that brings in the profits and money.