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Kerotan said:

prinz_valium said:

Kerotan said:

 

no the overall aim of the gaming division. But if there is something in there like the X1 giving huge loses it's not good for it no matter what you say and they won't be happy. BTW my common sense is telling me MS has lost money on the X1 product from the day they started researching it's design. And with the way sales have gone WW and the drastic fire sale type price cuts i reckon it will be many a year before they re coup the costs. 

and all that is just based on ur knowledge of what?
and what about sony and the ps4? they made a profit since day one?

yes loosing money sucks for every company. thats the reason, why ms did not cut the xb1 price by 100 bucks but released a kinectless version
and even if they loose money on an xb1 sold at 349. its not much. its not enough to make an overall loss for the xbox divison. not like the years of the original xbox and the early years of xb360.
and yes r&d costs money for all prodcuts. but that are costs, they already accounted in theire earnings years ago
did u notice the increas in costs for xb the last quarter? that was due to the launch in more territories.
the 50bucks pricecut /pro will account in this quarter.

 

xbox is profitable since years now. and that wont change in the near future
if u want to have a look urself, feel free:
http://www.microsoft.com/investor/default.aspx

the 360 is making it profitable. what part of the X1 only do you not understand? 

also you ignore the huge sums of money MS spend on advertising, buying exlusive games/dlc. for example COD, AC, Fifa, Madden, SO, Titanfall, The Division, Witcher etc. That all ads up. And some of the biggest titles on the system were practically given aay for free to try and counter the PS4. Destiny and Titanfall. 

 

ALl those ad to their loses and to recoup them they need to be selling more X1's at a higher price. The price of buying exclusive games and dlc along with advertising will also have gone up big time since the PS4 is dominating. The return for it has also dimished. Big examples being Fifa and Madden. 

u know how many x3b60 the ship compared to the xb1?
dont think so

otherwise u would not say such a stupid thing.
they ship 1/3 max

so to make up 1 buck xb1 loss per unit, the xb360 need to make 4 bucks per unit to get a flat zero. 5 to do a marginal profit.
but thats just theoretical numbers. if one xb1 makes 50 bucks loss, one xb360 has to make 250 bucks profit
thats the reason its stupid to say xb360 is making it profitable.

 

ms makes profits with games, xblive, hardware and accessories.
any ms spend money on r&d, advertising and all that other stuff. like anyone else.
thats why they dont care if the xb1 hardware make a small loss (if it does. thats not even given). its covered by the whole division.
u just cant put all the bad things that costs money on the xb1, but all the good that makes money only at the x360