Ps5 131gb Ram

[JEMC]

Pemalite said:

JEMC said:

@Pemalite : I know it's possible to squeeze that much memory on the next consoles, but will it be worth it? After all, they aren't really PCs but a mix of a console with a multimedia player, and their multitasking capabilities won't improve that much compared to what they can do right now. I don't see what they could use that much RAM, honestly, unless they load the whole game into the RAM.

 

As for new NAND that replaces both the need for separated HDD/SSD and RAM, that would be interesting... but will it be cost effective even whenever the next consoles launch?

Will it be worth it? Well. It really depends on the rest of the hardware really and the cost/benefit, no point loading a system up with Ram if you can't make use of that much memory. (GPU's and CPU performance development is slowing down in the PC space, which will affect next-gen.)
If Sony/Microsoft can throw in a faster Graphics Chip at the expensive of memory capacity, they would probably do so, 8Gb of Ram is fantastic right now in regards to cost/capacity, which is why these consoles wen't with that capacity. (Amongst other things.)

The big benefit though will come with Multi-Tasking, ever used Windows when it's loaded into a RAM drive? It's freaking nuts, you feel like superman on crack.


As for NAND, TLC NAND is especially cost effective, it's not able to be competitive with Optical Discs and Hard Drives in terms of size/cost ratio's just yet, but it's been making rapid progress over the few years.
NAND can also take advantage of really low fabrication nodes, because of how simple it is to make relative to a hand-designed processor.

I remember just a few years ago, picking up an OCZ SSD, that was 64Gb in size and cost me about $150.
Today, I can get an SSD 4x as large, for less, give it a console generation and see how things stack up. :P

No, I haven't used a computer with a RAM drive. But I loved your analogy!

 

As for NAND evolution, let me start saying that I don't know much about it, but if I'm not wrong they are already producing it at 20nm and with the troubles everybody (even Intel) are having to go below that point, I don't see them going beyond 14nm once next gen launches. Also NAND is still not as fast as RAM, so they still have work to do on that front.

And on top of that, even though TLC NAND is here and cheap enough, its lifespan is also lower than "regular" NAND and that is something of concern if you plan to go into smaller nodes, which will shorten its life even more, and try to use it also as RAM memory, which will dramatically increase its write-read operations shortening again its lifespan.

I'm afraid there's still a lot of work until we reach that point, even less when its affordable enough to use it on consoles.