NiKKoM said:
bugrimmar said:
So you're assuming these tank shells, which can come from say, a thousand tanks, will never hit a single zombie head? And assuming they don't, you're assuming that a zombie without legs or arms can still be dangerous?
Your assumptions also seem to say that ships and armies need to resupply every day, and that's simply not the case. Take WW2 for example. Iwo Jima took 10 freaking days of non-stop bombardment before the troops landed. Do you think the ships had to go back and forth to base in order to do that? The nearest base must've been a thousand miles way. And remember, that was more than 60 years ago. The military's resupply methods and weapons systems have only since improved a hundredfold. For instance, a single nuclear powered aircraft carrier has enough juice to never resupply for up to 25 years.
And zombies aren't endless. Remember, zombies are only the weird remains of humans. There are only 7 billion people in the world, so there's a maximum of 7 billion zombies to kill. However, we're also saying that a human population exists to fight them, surely a whole lot of people are dead and not able to come back, and a lot of those people are children/elderly/disabled so it's likely to be a lot less than 7 billion.
Probably 3-4 billion bodies at maximum, and a single MOAB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast) can wipe out hundreds of thousands of bodies by itself. We're talking 11 freaking tons of TNT and the military has 15 of these bad boys. Not to mention the thousands upon thousands of other conventional bombs that the military has in possession (I'm removing nuclear weapons from the equation, but if the military wanted to, they can use them). You gonna tell me that these things won't destroy zombies? Sheesh, these things destroy COUNTRIES. You gonna tell me the military will run out of bombs? Impossible. There're enough conventional bombs in the world to wipe out the whole human population ten times over.
And your resupply argument doesn't make any sense. The troops deployed in Iraq don't need to come back to the US to get new bombs and bullets. They bring enough to start armaggeddon and can get airdrops daily for fresh supplies.
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how are you gonna protect the corn fields, cows, water, food supply? Sure a nuclair ship can be powered for 25 years but the people on it can't.. Troop deployement in Iraq works cause its a relatively small number of people you have to resupply in a small area.. No to mention it was like 1:1 on logistical and outsourced personel vs military personel.. You do realise for the military to be actually combat ready for a long time they are very dependent. Its not self-relaint. Do you think a pilot can maintain his own fighterplane? Or knows how to refuel it? Fighter planes somtimes don't lift off cause there is freaking dust on them.. Who is gonna clean them? Fairies? Sure they have enough bombs but they won't get them to were they are needed. You can't save New York and Los Angeles, your own military bases and food supplies at the same time. the Armies aren't that big to do that..
We are talking about a global zombie outbreak.. So we let all the african people die? and asians? every time you drop a massive bomb you destroy the land that is feeding you. Who will get the left over food? the people or the military? its impossible to have all the soldiers in the world protect all the people in the world. it can't be done, logistically its impossible. Sure you could concentrate a lot of people into single area but that would mean the zombies would win.
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My argument is about how humans can't lose to zombies in a war. I'm not talking about "protecting the world". I'm talking about "winning the war". You're right, it's impossible to protect every single man, woman and child. However, it is very much possible to draw zombies into one place and bomb the hell out of all of them.
In that scenario, how is this war going to take long enough for food supplies to run out? The weapons we have now can destroy them all in an Instant. Globally, yes, lots of countries will suffer. But in the end, they can't even get near a machine gun bunker. Remember, the enemy is very stupid and incapable of higher thought. They can't detect ambushes and they can't understand when humans are drawing them into a bomb site. Isn't it so simple? Draw them all in one place, and boom, problem solved. Industrialized nations won't have any trouble with this but yes, developing nations will.
But after the powerful countries are done with their own problem, they can go and bomb the others as well. That's "winning the war" because the zombie population will be eradicated. But zombies can't "win" because they can't do that. They can't get rid of every human there is. But humans CAN get rid of every zombie there is. That's what makes my argument more sound than yours.