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KingdomHeartsFan said:
Soundwave said:

I honestly don't think third parties want to support Nintendo. MS and Sony already occupy the "big two" options that third parties want. PC occupies that the third spot. Third parties already have a full docket, there's just no need for another console manufacturer from their POV. 

Nintendo will always be the odd man out in this equation, even if they made a system exactly like third parties liked, there's still the issue that their games would sell less on such a platform because Nintendo games provide more competition that isn't there on MS/Sony's platforms.

So it's a zero sum game for Nintendo there.

Cutting a big deal with Disney and basically letting the two carry the platform with some Japanese third party support would be an OK solution IMO.

If their console is easy to port games to, ie x86 and power on par with the competition, third parties will port their games on Nintendo's next console.  Some even did it at the start of this gen and it was powerPC so it was a pain in the ass for them, if it was easy to port the games over most third parties would do so.  

Idk why you think third parties only want their game on 3 platforms, they will put them on whatever platform makes them money, and if its easy to port the game over it won't even have to sell that much to make money.


No they wouldn't, not if their ports aren't selling.

 

They would still be porting games over to this day if the big 2013 drought had never happened. People weren't buying Wii U's, and people weren't buying enough third party software. They were all lined up at launch. They disappeared when the Wii U sales disappeared. It sold almost 3 million units in that first launch window, and then sold like half about half a million until late summer 2013, when it was spurred by, big surprise, some actual game releases.

 

As for the OP, I hear what you're saying, but Disney would likely want way more $$$$$ than Nintendo is willing to spend to secure the rights to exclusive Marvel/Disney content on Nintendo consoles. That would be a massive coup, and it very well might help them. But I just don't see it happening. Nintendo has a lot of money saved up, billions in fact, from the Wii/DS gen. For that matter, they were making major money off the Game Boy line for years before that, and didn't LOSE money on the N64 or GC for that matter. But, for all of that, they do not have the massive coffers or revenue stream that Sony or MS do. People don't seem to get this point. Microsoft and Sony do not make most of their money, as companies, from gaming. Those are small divisions of much larger companies. They can lose money on their gaming divisions, at least for stretches, because they are making major money elsewhere, especially MS, where Windows pretty much rules the planet. Sony and MS can also have their own hardwre produced on the cheap, figuratively speaking, whereas it would cost Nintendo far more to pay OTHER comanies to produce, as people keep clamoring for, a console with power "on par" with PS4.

For Nintendo to have a system as powerful as PS4, they would have to spend major money to some other company to produce it for them, and then they'd have to price it at launch, likely no less than $500. It is not the Nintendo way to screw customers by pricing their systems that high. It was surprising enough that the Wii U was priced as high as it was at launch. It isn't just that they like to make "cheap consoles", IE cheap power. They like to make consoles that are affordable to families and the average consumer. The average consumer is not a hardcore, dedicated gamer who saves up hundreds of dollars (and usually doesn't have a family to support, so they can AFFORD major gaming funds) for the next big system to come along. I find it hilarious when I see people on forums claiming that they buy "all the systems", because most people, even with decent jobs, simply do not have that kind of money. Nintendo knows this, and tries to design consoles that will be affordable. For Sony, they were able to make a powerful console in the PS4 that they could take an initial hit and price at only $400, because they produce the hardware themselves, and can afford to take the early loss because of $$$$ from other divisions. Nintendo simply doesn't have those resources, they are a profitable company, but they are just a gaming company. Gaming is all they make money off of.

And that's why they're starting to do more licensing deals with their properties, for toys and such, and to look to QoL type things, totally outside of gaming, so they can up their overall revenue stream. Having exclusive Marvel/Disney games on their consoles would be cool, if they were good, but I'm not really sure just how much that would help their consoles sell more in the long run. And as I said, it's a deal I just don't think they could afford to make. They can afford to throw some cash around to a few third parties to get some more games on their system, sure. And that migh thelp. But really, at the end of the day, some Disney/Marvel titles aren't really going to sell their systems.  Not enough to make a huge difference.