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BlueFalcon said:
Pemalite said:

And the only way consoles next gen will be capable of 4k gaming is actually, up to the PC... And lets face it, the PC is slowing down in terms of performance increases, AMD for instance has pretty much been stagnant for 3 years, maybe 4 (Remains to be seen.).
Single GPU's today just dont have the grunt for 4k yet and if AMD continues on a course of only 10-50% performance increases every 3+ years, then it's probably going to be well into 2020 before mid-range hardware is capable of 4k.

You are way off there. HD6970 came out Dec 2010 vs. 290X that came out November 2013. In 3 years AMD increased performance 2.3X. In 4 years from HD5870 that came out Sept 2009, AMD increased performance 2.95X

http://www.computerbase.de/2013-12/grafikkarten-2013-vergleich/10/


The Radeon 7970 was released in December 2011, we are one month away from hitting 3 years and all that's been released is the Radeon 290 and 290X which didn't "replace" the 7970 per-say, but slotted in a spot higher.

The Radeon R9 290 (Keep in mind, I have four of them, prior to that I had three 7970's and before that dual 6950's unlocked into 6970's.) is anywhere from 10-50% faster than the Radeon 7970 depending on the benchmark, averging closer to 30-40% overall. (I can't be bothered working out the exact percentages.)
http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1032?vs=1059

Please refrain from posting non-English links, I am unable to read what they say, Anandtech however is generally regarded as highly reliable and accurate.

Now we will be passing the 3 year mark soon before the Radeon 300 series is released, with some rumours placing the 300 series in the second or 3rd quarter of next year for release (I HOPE NOT!), hence my reasoning of using "3+".
And even then, we are not guarenteed to get an increase in the high-end that is going to be significant.

However, what we can do is look at the increase that the jump from 40nm (Terascale 2) to 28nm (Graphics Core Next) brought us, which was in the realm of 30-90% depending on the benchmark.
However, the difference this time around is that there is no architecture overhaul, what AMD will be doing is using the tech found in Tonga, aka, Graphics Core Next "1.2". - So one can assume that the gains will be less than the jump between Terascale and Graphics Core Next, although there is node drop hopefully to 20nm.

With that in mind, what makes me think second half of 2015 before a release was the rumour of two new GPU's, one that was a 350mm2 die, which turned out to be tonga' and another 500mm2 die which has yet been released, which would make it larger than the Radeon R9 290X, that may then buy AMD a little time untill the second half of 2015. - Again, only a rumour and only half of it has come true, take it as you will.



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