DanneSandin said:
Please explain the bolded part a little for me, won't you? Thx. GamerGate started when Zoe Quinn was "exposed", and had nothing to do with Anita Sarkes...ian (?), but she soon found herself neck deep because she released a video regarding females in video games. GamerGate forced her in, more or less. The fun part about all of this is that GamerGate very fast attacked Zoe, but NOT the journalists that allegedly was bribed. Very personal attacks on Zoe, with naked photos of her being spread around the net by gamergaters. They all talked about how curropt the journalists were, but did in no way attack any of them in the same way Zoe got attacked. And why bring Anita into this? She was attacked by gamergaters as well, and don't try to deny that. Maybe the movement never changed, but that means that it was bad and rotten to begin with. |
Apparently you don't use twitter very often, things were said, multiple times, that not only acted as her getting involved herself, but making it clear that anyone even so much as on the fence, was an angry male and thus "a monster".
again, gamergate started out as, and continues to be about the corruption, the problem is i suspect you have bought in to the bullshit, with all vocal feminists and all games media constantly making the connection where a connection was never there, and pushing their agenda, by subscribing to that train of thought you have robbed yourself of objectivity.
Now for the bolded,
Feminists have been around for an extremely long time, and have done amazing things to aid with equality and bring fairness and stability to society, agressive feminism is a relatively new breed in which educated women (many from communications studies and such vocational degrees) step headlong in to the firing line to lay down their ideals, there is no middle ground, you are either with them or against them, but it isn't simply a matter of "this person doesn't agree with us, but let's hear them out anyway" it's a matter of "theyre the enemy, shame them, attack them, insult them and degrade any point they attempt to make by cherry picking whatever you can and fix-focusing on a particular point, even if they werent the ones that made it, to force your own agenda.
That is the case here, I am neutral to either discussion, becase neither side are approaching things in a way I wish to identify with, however there is an extreme amount of cherry picking going on, a well known feminist will spout absolute tripe for hours, claiming anyone who is so much as undecided is a monster, misogynist and potential rapist, but the second someone speaks up in defence, regardless of how calm or polite they do so, either the person they directed the response to or the droves of mindless followers of said person take it upon themselves to do the attacking and labeling in their stead.
This culture of aggressive insistant opinion is very much aggressive feminism, because there is not so much as a suggestion of any form of open dialog, it's not an invitation to discuss and enrich the situation, it is simply laying down a line in the sand and forcing people to pick a side, and god help you if it isn't the side they wanted you to pick.
I've even had fellow female game developers still in the business talk to me about having received emails and letters from prominent feminists and games sites basically asking "have you heard about gamersgate, what is your view and by the way if you get involved you will be attacked and assaulted by millions of angry men, if that happens we'll defend you", and it's absolutely sickening, i've even had a very well known, and active games journalist who i was previously good friends with, ask me to get involved and help "construct" a situation where I would join a list of victimized women in the industry who have been personally threatened, to make matters even more sickening, It was heavilly implied that in doing so, I would "greatly increase my noteriety and favor within the industry and media".
It's this discussion that lead me to write a long post on my experiences with this corruption a few days ago, and frankly i'm fucking sick it of.
The industry is a cess pit and there is no amecable end in sight, there is no middle ground, no matter which side wins, everything is going to go to shit.
Oh and those zoe nude pictures? they were already all over the internet long before this all blew up, that's kinda what happens when you do a series of softcore porn shoots.
