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Tachikoma said:
DanneSandin said:
I haven't watched the video yet, but I think it's important to remember that no matter what GamerGate started out as, it's changed. Media (and not just gaming media - media as a whole) has determined what it is about NOW. The discourse now is about misogyny within the gaming community, that has been determined by the larger debate.

GG "followers" might argue that it's about journalistic integrity, but that's not what is being discussed when talking about GG nowadays; it's shifted towards death threats and online harassment.

I dont agree at all.

Collectively, both the aggressive feminist movement and the gaming press benefit from the destruction of the movement, and have embarked on a campaign over the past 2 months to relentlessly dog and mar the discussion, drag it directly from what it's root cause was for and insist that it's about feminism, in doing so and in the clinical execution of unanimously emploring people to drop the tag, they expose their purpose, and that purpose is to bury any question of corruption and underhanded dealings throughout the games media.

Even if the handful of idiots that took things to a personal level had not done so, do you really think, for a second, that an industry that thrives and makes its bread and butter from such dealings and a deep intertwining of lies and manipulation, are going to be welcoming in any way shape or form, of a movement intent on exposing these?

By forcing the opinions of the neutral to believe that the movement "changed" to one about nothing but hate, they sidestep the responsibility and risk, while turning the movement in to a sitting duck for contraversy and hits, as well as allowing the leaders of this bullshit to springboard their publicity and careers off of the back of it.

Please explain the bolded part a little for me, won't you? Thx.

GamerGate started when Zoe Quinn was "exposed", and had nothing to do with Anita Sarkes...ian (?), but she soon found herself neck deep because she released a video regarding females in video games. GamerGate forced her in, more or less. The fun part about all of this is that GamerGate very fast attacked Zoe, but NOT the journalists that allegedly was bribed. Very personal attacks on Zoe, with naked photos of her being spread around the net by gamergaters. They all talked about how curropt the journalists were, but did in no way attack any of them in the same way Zoe got attacked.

And why bring Anita into this? She was attacked by gamergaters as well, and don't try to deny that. Maybe the movement never changed, but that means that it was bad and rotten to begin with.



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