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theprof00 said:
Neodegenerate said:
Yojimbo said:

I agree in that situation it is not 150 dollar price cut. Still its quite confusing, did ps3 get price cut or not? from 599 to 399 euro it was new version without ps2 compatiblity and other stuff. Or can we only count price cuts from 399 euro, because it was the same version?


New console versions and price cuts are not as black and white as people want to make them out to be.  I got my original PS3 Fat with backwards compatability for 600 or whatever it was at launch.  I bought my most recent 120gb PS3 for 160 or something a couple years back.  Did the ability to play PS3 games become cheaper as the consoles life went on?  Yes.  Did you get the same or greater value (minus the backwards compatability thing) by buying a cheaper version later?  Yes.  Do you define that as "price cut"?  If so, yes you got a price cut.  If you don't, then you paid less for a cheaper version.

This post raises so many abstractions and questions about what is considered value that it can't possibly be the right answer.

What if a console released with a game, but then didn't and they dropped price? Is that less or more value? Back to the drawing board with this one.

xb1 went from 500 to 350. With or without kinect (which we'd really have to quantify in value, seeing as how sales have actually increased, indicating that kinect is either value-null or a negative).

If a new item(Kinectless XB1) doesn't have the functionality/capability of an "old" item (XB1 with Kinect), how can anyone really say they are the same thing regardless of whether you find any Value in the kinect?  The kinect adds a whole different capability to the XB1.  So, comparing a $349 kinectless XB1 to the $449 version with Kinect is laughable.  

Most of this thread and the other 4-5 threads about the $50 price drop are filled with this same logic.  Oddly, I don't see anyone making this logic leap outside of PS fans trying to make a bigger deal out of a $50 price drop a year after launch.  

As far as sales increasing(bolded), that was just plain silly.  Of course sales will increase when a different version of product comes out and has a %20 price difference.  On top of that, the entry point was now under $400, which had a more meaningful impact than any other reason.  I don't think that many people would argue that a majority of buyers seem to not care about Kinect functionality.  The fact that the Kinect included sku is still being sold tells you that the value is still there for buyers.



It is near the end of the end....