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Intrinsic on 28 October 2014
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curl-6 said:
Intrinsic said:
curl-6 said:

I thought we were talking about framerate?

Yes I was, but more importantly I was talking about the choice all devs seem to be making these days.

Thing is that any and every game can run at 60fps. It ust comes down to what you are ready to give up to make that happen. Lower framerate, less complex geometry, less post processing effects....etc. So basically devs are constantly having to choose between maxium possible eye candy and higher framerates. They all apparently are choosing the former over the latter.

Nintendo runs most of their games at 60fps (not all of them) but that is also cause they run them at 720p with simplified geometry and minimal to no post processing effects. The games on the PS4/XB1 are leaning towards higher rez, higher IQ but then taking a framerate hit and settling for 30fps.

30fps seems to be fast becoming the industry standard. 

"Fast becoming industry standard"? It's been industry standard since the 5th gen, haha.

You can still make an attractive looking game at 60fps and I'd contend that Nintendo are again a good example; games like Mario 3D World and Mario Kart 8 look great at 60fps. Sure, they could be more detailed at 30fps, but then the gameplay would be less responsive.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not against 30fps with greater detail when it makes sense, but devs should stop giving us BS excuses and just be honest.

I don't think you realize we are agreeing on the same thing. I only disagree with the nintendo part cause there is an obvious reason their games can hit 60fps. Yes a game can still obviouly be good looking at 60fps. But if the same team made the same game but went down to 30fps they would naturally be able to make it look even better. What I am basically saying is that now every dev seems willing to do just that. Slow it down to make it "look better".

Thats why I said in my original post here that only Kojima MGS5:PP which is running at 60fps and 1080p on the PS4 and naughty dog U4 who has supposedly said U4 will run in 1080p@60fps too are our last hopes of teams that will go for really good looking AAA games while still hitting 60fps. 

I will change my opinion on nintendo if tehe new Zelda game is running at 60fps and at least with some AA. I appreciate that they see 60fps as important to the "feel" of  a game, but I can't comend them for doig something when I can obviously see what they did (or didn't do) to make it possible.