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Seece said:
Aphelion said:
Seece said:

Yes, go check the last few years.

2012 saw Oct to Nov increase five-fold, 2013 was quadruple.

And MS has never been this aggressive in a November before, it's the first time the console has had a price cut in November, it's usually August or September

2012:
Sep - 270,000
Oct - 270,000
Nov - 1,260,000
Dec - 1,400,000

XB1 is already beating the Sep figure.


Guess what, much has to do with price.  Black friday deals work better at 200 then 350ish, its where the masses of the lower income level get their goods.  An xbox that touches 400 after taxes will not do as much as a 200 dollar one.  

You are expecting X1 to achive the sales of a 200$ if not less then that 360, it is comical.  

Even with the higly inflated sept numbers of 280k, X1 would have to increases sales 5 fold sept to Nov in its second year to do what many are predicting.  

Nuts is the word.  

No dude, you're disregarding research done over the entire industry, this is backdated to previous generations even.

And you are conveniently avoing a few things.

- X1 is not a market leader, it will not sale anywhere enar 360 levels or wiis or even PS2s.  
- It has yet to even finish its first year, such sales are unrealistic for a consoles second November.
- Price matters, X1 costs to much to achieve such massive sales this nov.  

Even the freaking wii took untill it 3rd Nov to break 1m, PS3 never actually did it and X1 is more like it in the marletplace then the 360.  

But X1 will do the unthinkable and break records ? Xbox1s own history is even agianst such a thing happening, its previous "cut" and all the bundles and free games all failed to achive massive hardware bumps.  

Then the most damming aspect of all, its still competing with the PS4 for sales.  And here it always fails, but maybe hell.  If you see have PS4 selling well north of 2 million in Nov NDp.  If the market is so heathly it can do that.  Then yes X1 has a shot at + 1million in Nov NDP.  PS4 X1 wiiu selling + 4million in Nov NDp would be one hell of a stunning sight.