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DonFerrari said:


You started your replies saying the origin of the conflicts is the US influence. Which is proven wrong by showing they already had conflicts prior to that, now if you want to say US involvement may have influenced and worsened the situation that is a different claim than to say it generated purely from US involvement. And you posted videos from US influence in past 10 years, which he reffuted with proof of atriction in the 80's -claiming 500y back - before your video (so we could claim you were wrong because he used previous data to show it already existed, but then you posted older stuff to say if he knew that he would have posted that while ignoring you didn't in first place. So it was possible that he already knew but didn't use that).

You claimed that this stuff would reach him (didn't know it was already around him), so if you didn't assume he was western (possibly american based on your trying to input blame on USA for the events) what did you mean by that. Them accused him of being ignorant and that it wouldn't solve the problem.

He said your tinfoil stuff (that curiously coincide with your avatar), and said that because any conspiracy theory is basic associated with tinfoil claims. His video of the 80's showed that it was on greater scale than what is now (we don't have video of older times when they were on war against each other). As you said they didn't knew America back when they were super powers during middle age. But do you know that Islam should wage war agaisnt all infidels and convert everyone to its religion right? And that isn't USA influence. He just claimed Arabs ethinicies always hated one another (wars in the ancient time shows that) and there was no USA to blame at the time).

Then you go patronize him claiming he should think different because he is there (why should everyone think every problem in the world is USA to blame?) Than say the info is available to anyone that doesn't want to be ignorant. And then claim he is being manipulated by thinking different than you *while it could be you the one being manipulated*, most left wing and socialist think mass are being controled by the rich and that media is being used to do that while ignoring their "lider" is also manipulating them with badly constructed data. And keep claiming he is ignorant and manipulated *without realizing all the points you posted are equaly valid to you, but you think it isn't "because I know all" even tough assuming that knowing all is the dawnfall invitation* 

Then after he assuring you he knows about the data you posted you go and say that even tough there is no evidence just a moron wouldn't get it (while saying one paragraph earlier that he don't get it).

And now you say you know they have been in war from dawn of time, but for him you said it is irrelevant because other countries held war between them in the past... do you know that several european countries still have some animosity between them and some xenophobia? And british and french altough in friends terms don't really love one another? The difference is they learned after almost exterminating one another and through law enforcement.

The whole issue about religious motivation, and you say that a lot is throw at it, but also says religion mindset is predominant in population *which is obvious for any religious country* so it really shows how much religion can affect the issue (possibly a lot more than the so called manipulation by US). 

Then complain he said you are just saying you are right because you are and that you pose as intelectually better as if that was his only point.  And goes back to humility and ego preventing knowledge, while lacking humility yourself. And call him arrogant as well. Also haven't admited even the possibility of being wrong. And again you claim IT WAS CAUSED BY USA INFLUENCE, not that it could only be catalized.

Is that enough for reading all the posts or you need more proof of your lack of manners in here and your claims of superiority and knowing all, but choosing to ignore all other causes and focus on USA probably based on an agenda?

 

honestly your post is very hard to follow so i'll just say this

 

i conceded that conflict in the middle east has been occuring since 500 i never said not

what i was saying and i posted various evidence to support it is that the us has funded and influenced a lot of the conflict in the region for the past few decades

this is fact not conspiracy or tinfoil hat or whatever theory

to try to deny or diminish the influence the united states has had on the region is nonsensical to me

hilary clinton herself admits indirectly that ISIS was created through the funding they did years ago 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqn0bm4E9yw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhFleLinwEM

 

alongside that you have a us general stating that they plan to take out certain countries within the next few years and it has happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

 

these are not conspircay theories i'm pulling out of thin air there is documented evidence for it all