This guy basically solved all the middle east problems. yet who's listening?

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DonFerrari said:

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DonFerrari said:

o_O.Q said:

have you realised that so far that is your only retort?

you seem to be more concerned with being offended that i may have shown you something you did not know than actually being appreciative that you gained the chance to learn something new

and that is where ego and lack of humility pay a part in keeping people ignorant

 

for example, you posted videos describing conflicts in the middle east which started in 1980 to demonstrate how i was wrong about united states influence

i then proceeded to show you how these conflicts were in fact influenced by the united states when zbigniew brezinzski funded the mujahideen

 

instead of simply admitting that you were mistaken you just dismissed it all as something you knew before hand

so you knew and yet you still posted that false bullshit about the conflicts without pointing out that they were caused by united states influence

 

so no it has nothing to do with intellect its just that you are too arrogant to allow yourself to see how you are wrong

truly amusing but whatever buddy carry on

Man please stop... you are basically going against your own preach...

Pullus being right or wrong already knew all the info you posted and disagree. Could you consider that he may know more than you or being open and humble only work for him but not you?

Quite possibily a separation from State/Church/Law System could help them some, othe thing would be for the ethinicies to form their own countries (like africa should, because in some countries they forced several rival tribes in the same space and now get atriction). But to believe all the shit we have know is because of USA or any western country is no sense. Well asking for country separation probably wouldn't work too much since no ethinicity would want to lose power and land.

well you clearly did not read our conversation

had he known about the influence the us had in the middle east going way back beyond the 1980s

he wouldn't have done something so ignorant as to imply that the conflicts there in the 1980s were simply because they hated each other and not because they were influenced

i'd advise you to actually take the time and go back and read our conversation from the start because clearly you either didn't read it or didn't understand what you read

I read... you assume too much... maybe just maybe you should consider the hypothesis that people may be more inteligent than you give then credit for.

So he posted some material from the 80's. You rethorted with things from earlier (that you still assume he had no knowledge instead of accepting after he answered that maybe he had the info but don't value it more than other info?)... you started assuming he was American and not Arab and from there own you were patronizing him and spouting inconsiderated offenses.

If you think they are at war because some papers show USA influence from before 80's (and just because it is older then it have more relevance) then 1400 year or more of history, tribalism, religious law opposing that should be more noteworthy. Or just your info hold value?

 

ok let me be quite clear about this, this is not about intellect or intelligence or whatever 

this is about facts 

 

to recap he posted this first video of conflicts which started in 1980 as evidence that there was no us involvement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhFleLinwEM

however, as shown in this video that is nonsense the united states absolutely did have involvement in 1979 just prior to the start

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6s-Fs4RnFY

 

this was a second video he posted about saddam hussein attacking with chemical weapons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNxks7LqY0w

however released documents show us involvement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk35suofbYQ

 

"that you still assume he had no knowledge instead of accepting after he answered that maybe he had the info but don't value it more than other info?"

well all i can say to this is that you do not understand the context go back to the original posts read them and then come back to me

he posted the videos as a rebuttal to my claim of us influence, which obviously only makes sense if you are unaware of how far back it goes

 

"you started assuming he was American and not Arab and from there own you were patronizing him and spouting inconsiderated offenses."

uh  i never at any point made any comment on his nationality, race, eye colour or what have you so i would appreciate it if you don't make up crap and say i posted it

to the second part lol you see no problem with him calling my post tinfoil hat posts?

you do not consider that to be offensive? 

to associate someone with a tinfoil hat is to in effect call them crazy 

not that i really care i'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of telling me i'm offensive while saying nothing to him about it

 

" then 1400 year or more of history, tribalism, religious law opposing that should be more noteworthy."

 

i'm not denying that there was tension between groups in the middle east for centuries, however, i think and i have provided evidence to support my conclusion that most of the recent death and destruction is the result of united states influence