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Pavolink said:
pokoko said:

You're telling me that most of the people who bought Hyrule Warriors bought it because it's a Warriors game?  I'm guessing that most of the 5 million people who bought Link's Crossbow Training just really liked crossbows, too?

Look, depite your accusation that I tried to spin this for some reason, I really don't give a rat's ass either way.  I just thought a Zelda comparison would be more interesting since I'm pretty damn sure most of the sale for this game in the west are because it has Link and Zelda.  Now, as to why that would bother someone enough that they'd throw insults over it, I have no clue.

I don't even care if you want to compare it to other Warriors games, which I've already said.  All I'm saying is that I don't think we'll find anything interesting in that, other than the fact that Zelda is more popular in the west than Romance of the Three Kingdoms.  Surprise, surprise.  Gundam and One Piece are more interesting but again we run into the fact that neither are as popular in the west as Zelda and that those games aren't on Nintendo consoles here (as far as I know).

So why are people getting angry and upset that I think comparing it to Link's Crossbow Training, Four Swords, or Twilight Princess is more intriguing?  I have no bloody clue, other than they perhaps are worried that it won't "win", but why would anyone give a damn about that?  That's not why we do comparisons.

Honestly, this whole bloody thread has gotten ridiculous.  I don't have any agenda.  I've laid out my rationale and, even if you don't agree, I think I've been fair and that my points are at least worthy of thought.  Regardless, people are getting silly over this and I'm tired of it.

Yeah, let's even compare SSB with Mario Kart and Paper Mario. Every one of those has Mario.

Paper Mario is a flop.

*sigh*

They certainly and absolutely can be compared, as the characters involved are one of the main points of success for each of them.  None of those games would sell as many copies if they did not star Mario characters.  I think everyone can agree with that.

As for your second sentence, that doesn't even make sense.  Are there people who think that everything has to be a 1:1 comparison?  Probably, but I hope they eventually gain a little more knowledge before they graduate from school.  The goal of a comparison is to see what we can learn; if it's not a direct comparison across the board then there is no point in reaching an absolute conclusion.

Let me give you an example.

If I compare two NFL Quarterbacks who have been starters for 5+ years, I might have the goal of saying, "this one is better than that one."  On the other hand, if I'm comparing an NFL Quarterback to a college Quarterback, my goals will probably be completely different.  

We compare two things that share similar elements to see what we can learn, both about those elements which are similar and those which are different.