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Mike_L said:
d21lewis said:
Mike_L said:
d21lewis said:
Mike_L said:
NickK said:

1: I just don't see how a third party game can be held against Nintendo in this particular instance.

2: I just can't see how those Wii games in your post fall into that category.

1: Well We Sing and We Dance games are "Licensed by Nintendo" which means "that the products have been evaluated and licensed by Nintendo". PlayStation had "nothing to do" with the game 3D Dot Game Heroes developed by Silicon Studio and published by Atlus and yet were accused of copying Zelda.

2: If you don't think Nintendo has anything to do with the approval of a SingStar "rip off" released exclusively for their system it's fine by me. Then forget about the We Sing games. You can't see how the other EyeToy series of games inspired Nintendo to develop and publish the Wii series of games?

EyeToy Play Sports (motion controlled boxing, tennis, etc) -> Wii Sports (motion controlled boxing, tennis, etc)

EyeToy Play (motion controlled minigames) -> Wii Play (motion controlled minigames)

EyeToy Kinetic (motion controlled exercise game) -> Wii Fit (motion controlled exercise game)

EyeToy Monkey Mania (motion controlled party games) -> Wii Party (motion controlled party games)

SingStar (competitive music/party game) -> Sing Party (competitive music/party game)

 

Sing Party is also both developed and published by Nintendo.

1.  At this point, I wonder if you even believe the things you're posting.  You are reeeeeeeaaaaally stretching things, here.  I mean we're now giving first parties credit for things that third parties have made?  Sony did a great job on Bio Shock because it was released on the PS3--even though it was released a year earlier on PC/360.  I mean, it was licensed by Sony, right?  That means they had something to do with the development.

Not sure what forum you were on at the time but around here, 3D Dot Heroes was considered an homage to the old school style of games.  Not a rip off.

2.  One of my first Wii games was a piece of shit called Kawasaki Jet Ski.  It was a personal watercraft racing game that was pure garbage.  It retailed for like $20 and it was released exclusively for the Wii.  I bought it because I thought it was like Wave Race but it was horrible.  If you think Nintendo had something to do with the development of that shovelware released exclusively for their console, then I don't know what to say.  Nintendo rips off Nintendo, I guess?

 

I didn't own an Eye Toy but looking at Youtube and from personal experience with the Xbox Live Vision camera games, the games didn't work.  And even if they did, it didn't work the same way the Wii Remote did.  But you seem to love editing what I say to the simplest terms.  It's like saying "Call  of Duty is a rip off of Wolfenstein because

Call of Duty (Kill Nazis with a gun) -> Wolfenstein (Kill Nazis with a gun)  They're exactly the same, right?

So if we play by your rules, can I say something as general as Dance Aerobics (Motion Controlled Exercise) -> Eye Toy Kinetic (Motion Controlled Exercise)?

 I don't think we'll agree on this subject.  From where I'm sitting, it looks like this:  Sony released the Eye Toy and then released a series of games in different genres to show what it could do.  Nintendo released the Wii Remote and then released a series of games in different genres to show what it could do.  You're trying to make it seem as if certain genres are suddenly "off limits" because one company did it.  Those Eye Toy games you named weren't the first in their genre.  I can't wrap my head around what you're saying!

 

Also:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaoke_Studio  

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