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kowenicki said:
We seem to be getting a lot of these threads at the moment....

Coincidence?

Both those games deserve average or worse scores from what I have read. But I haven't played them so I could wrong. You seem to be cherry-picking one review comment to make a much broader point.

I'm slightly confused about your initial comment, are you trying to imply something? I prefer straight-talk to innuendos.

And regarding my cherry-picking, I'm taking the two reviews I have read over the last year and using them to make a point. Two reviews spaced a year apart that are both incredibly flawed, although I used various sources regarding the Knack paragraph. Might I ask what you have read about the games as I have watched a lot of DriveClub streams and the vast majority of people streaming are incredibly positive about the game outside of the current server issues.