Which "Mature" titles are actually immature?

[rocketpig]

bdbdbd said:

rocketpig said:

De85 said:
I think Bioshock and Mass Effect use it well with the political/moral undertones. Gears and Halo 3 use it poorly as they're just vehicles for kids to shoot each other and insult each other's mothers.

If they're not trying to be anything more than mindless action, there's nothing wrong with M ratings on some games. Halo and Gears are no different than your average R-rated action movie though both are quite well done, something most action movies only dream of achieving.

There are plenty of T&A, blood n guts, shit titles to go after instead of two of the premiere console shooters this generation.

 

But doesn't the mindless shooting make the game immature? I agree that there's nothing wrong making immature games for immature people as long as they don't pretend to be something else. Brain Training would make a good use of 18+ rating. @Red4ADevil: Really? Interesting thing to say about one of the most sophisticated cultures in "western" history.

Not in my opinion. Entertainment is created for very different reasons. If the games aspires to be nothing more than an adrenaline rush and plays with depth and great controls, it's not "immature" per se, it's just going for a different feel.

The same way I wouldn't call the original Spider-Man movie immature, I won't call Halo immature. They're both well done entertainment vehicles... They just don't challenge the grey matter too heavily. Nothing wrong with that.

I'll take that attitude any day over a game that jumps into a story where the developer shows himself completely incapable of handling properly or intelligently, instead giving us a half-assed story that's insulting to anyone with a brain... I would call that immature much more quickly than something that aspires to be nothing more than good ol' fashioned fun.