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tbone51 said:


Its 6mil difference you took the highest number and the lowest number bro. So i meant if like 3ds sells 58mil, i expect if pokemon didn't exist 3ds be around 52mil.

Your twisting my words (well numbers) man >_<

Also, why lose faith? Nintendo HH Sales arent all from Pokemon, aside from GBC i guess you can say. Pokemon= Nintendo Biggest HH IP and Biggest System Seller, but its not everything to its HH sales.

 

 

 

Edit: Maybe this will help. If 3DS stop selling today, it would be at what? 44mil right? Pokemon XY sold 12mil (well its over that so lets say 13mil).

44mil-13mil is 31mil users who dont have Pokemon with their 3ds's. Out of the remaining 13mil who bought pokemon (that own a 3ds obviously!) how many of them only bought it for pokemon (just 1 game) or something in a similar fashion? (meaning knew it was coming and bought a 3ds before XY release). 

I bet nowhere near half, bt lets just say half. 6.5mil have already got 3ds's from wanting other games. That leaves the usrbase 44mil vs 37.5mil at the least

This is what i meant, its not like if pokemon wasnt here, Nintendo HHs would decline by potentially half or greater due to it going to mobile!

 

I'm not twisting your words, Tbone. I pointed out that 3m is too small a difference so even for a prediction the numbers cannot be that close.Of course I took the highest and lowest. If you said it would be 50-55 with pokemon 45-50 without, you'd be suggesting that it is possible that even without pokemon it would not lose a single sale. 

Again, you can't look at the numbers of sold units of a product and deduct that number and assume that that's all the impact it had on a console. The problem with that hypothesis, is that you completely ignore how it affects the perception of the console by the public.

When the vita lost Monster Hunter as an exclusive, it lost much faith in it by the developers. There were doom articles and threads everywhere. The lack of faith in the vita made developers drop projects that could have helped the system tremendously (e.g. Bioshock). And it continues like a snowball. Everyone sees it as an unattractive product to make fun of, not to own. Part of the reason the iphones are successful is that people talk about them all the time. If someone talksabout his 3ds and how he likes catching pokemon, you might check out the system even if you have no interest in pokemon itself.

And here is a very simple example: Tommorow a new oblivion game is announced for vita. The game ends up selling 2m units, yet there's a huge increase of hardware that is way beyond 2m based on how much it's projected to sell at the moment. Why? Because everyone is talking about it. Then more developers make games for it, Sony decides to spend money promoting it, more people are seen on streets using one, and so on. Sure, Oblivion X would not be directly responsible for all those hardware sales, but had it not been for it the vita would be dead. Does that make sense to you?