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o_O.Q said:
Cleary397 said:
o_O.Q said:
Cleary397 said:

You're so right.

I garuntee he did not listen to the audio provided, or follow the transcript. He posted a reply 14 minutes after i supplied it to him, and given that the speech is 25 minutes long its impossible for him to actually have listened and analysed the evidence.

But then again.... the illuminati are real! its a conspiracy because a guy on youtube says so!!


 

sigh... that you actually have no idea that he did make a speech about secrecy even though you claimed to have looked into this is depressing

 

here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdUsJHeVXiE

 

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations."

 

those were the words of kennedy before he was assassinated

and i'd liketo draw attention to this portion "that relies primarily on covert means"

this process is not direct and overt it is subtle and that's part of the reason why people find it so easy to dismiss it so easily


Can you provide the date and location of this speech given?

I like to verify evidence as best as i can.

 

Edit: Verified myself, the speech you provided was given on April 27th 1961. NOT "Weeks" before he was assassinated.

This is a classic case of misrepresenting evidence to make it fit a pre-concieved idea/conspiracy. 


uh huh...

where did i say it was weeks before he was assassinated?

please reply and tell me, also reply and tell me how i misrepresented what he said?

did i go back through time and put a gun to his head to force him to talk about secrecy?

but regardless of that how does the date invalidate what he says?

 

btw here's another speech by president eisenhower who also saw the danger in this and sought to warn people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

 

edit: in my haste to reply i missed this

"Further edit: Lets now consider what the real meaning of the speech was by examining what was going on in the world around 1961...

hmm... the cold war seems a pretty big deal to the americans. Maybe they were worried about russian spies and espionage.

Thus the reason for this quote you were adamant to point out - "that relies primarily on covert means"."

 

why would he therefore call it "around the world"?


Well, the video you provided as evidence starts with "Speech by JFK given just weeks before he was assassinated"

So if you are agreeing that this was not "weeks before he was assassinated" then you must omit the evidence provided as it starts with false claims.

 

You are misrepresenting JFK by using his words completely out of context. The speech was in response to him feeling his privacy was being violated by the american press, and that privacy needs to be redefined and considered carefully.

Maybe include this in your future claims, which is the follow up paragraph to your snippet -

"But I do ask every publisher, every editor, and every newsman in the nation to reexamine his own standards, and to recognize the nature of our country's peril. In time of war, the government and the press have customarily joined in an effort based largely on self-discipline, to prevent unauthorized disclosures to the enemy. In time of "clear and present danger," the courts have held that even the privileged rights of the First Amendment must yield to the public's need for national security.

When you include this, it becomes clear he is not talking about some ultra secretive society who somehow feels the need to plant these obvious clues to their existance, but is in fact talking about privacy and the freedom of the press.



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