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QuintonMcLeod on 10 October 2014
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Neodegenerate said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
Neodegenerate said:
QuintonMcLeod said

This doesn't prove that televisions set the standards on resolutions. That was the point you were trying to make.

Also, your second source is very old, as the PC has been showing growth this year:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2014/10/09/gartner-growth-eu-us/1?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20bit-tech%2Fall%20(bit-tech.net%20feed)

But even though the PC market is showing growth, it has nothing to do with what my point was. You're claiming that it's inconvenient for those to game on 4k televisions. My point was that, PC gamers have the choice to game on 4k resolutions if they so desire. Console gamers do not have a choice. PC games aren't restricted to 1080p. They can actually scale (I'm not talking uprez) to 4k resolutions. Some games even advertise as being playable in 4k resolutions. You can play Battlefield 4 in 4k resolutions right now. You can play Theif in 4k resolutions right now. You can play NBA 2k15, WatchDogs, Bioshock Infinite, Tomb Raider, etc. in 4k resolutions. I bet you had no idea, did you?

The guy I was originally replying to felt that the PS4 was the limit to how good graphics could look at 1080p. He feels that a person won't see much of a difference between a $400 dollar console and a $1100 PC on a 1080p television. This is pure ignorance, and shows that he clearly hasn't seen what PCs are bloody capable of. This is what PCs are capable of:

 

Anyway, I think you were right before. We're done here.


Actually the point I was making was that the mainstream audience won't care about 4k until it is on their TVs.  A point you have, as of yet, been unable to dispute.

The PC market showing growth this year is all well and good, but again doesn't address the point of TVs being the standard setters for the mainstream audience.

Yes I am aware that gamers on PC can play in 4k.  Congrats to you?

I am not the guy you initially argued with.  I am the guy who asked to see a computer you could buy, for $400.00, that would give you the same, or better, gaming experience than a PS4.  You then decided to show a computer that you could buy cheap, but still need to actually put a new vid card in.

But yes I am glad we can finally agree that, we are done here.

1) A point I haven't refuted because I don't care and nor have I argued this.

2) ** shrugs ** Don't care.

3) Yes. Congrats to me.

4) The video card we put in made it $400 bucks. Without the video card, it would be less than $250 bucks.

5) Indeed, we are.


4. Yet it still doesn't fit the criteria of open the box, plug it in, and play it.

5. Nah, I still wanna see you provide the item for #4 within the criteria requested.


4/5) I don't believe you can. Most manufacturers that provided gaming PCs overcharge. If this is what you're trying to prove, then yes. You are right. The PS4 beats manufactured gaming PCs in price. Hands down. In specs? No, it doesn't.