| BlueFalcon said:
GeForce Experience/ AMD Raptr - You select the game and it lets you optimize the game settings for your GPU/rig. It can also download the latest drivers. With consoles you have to do updates all the time too; so what difference is there to install drivers on a PC? Ok, so on consoles you also have to deal with things like PCU, swapping memory, swapping CPUs/GPUs and all the drivers you will need for any of those components in addition to the updates you will need for the OS and the games right? Yh... I see exactly how there is no difference. Starting your point having first attacked this obviously true fact about how console gaming will always be more plug and play than PC gaming kinda sets up the tone for the rest of your points... but lets see anyways. 2. Well, if you don't want to buy a used i7 4790K, you can just pay that now upfront. If you looked at the total cost of ownership, you can either take the larger hit in invetment now, or later when you upgrade. It doesn't change the argument that the total cost of ownership on PCs is often less than consoles. In fact, with the money saved on not buying cross-platorm games on consoles, but rather on the PC, I buy a console and its exclusives. If being budget minded is what yu are trying to do then lets be buget minded. If saving money means that much to you, you could buy a used PS4 in say 2015 for as little as $200. Buy your games used from ebay or something like that and if you are willing to wait around 3-4 months after a games release you could be spending as little as $20-$35 per game. But you can still buy at least two or three of your games at full price if you feel you can't wait for them. Point is, if your primary reason for platform choice is/are saving.... there are also ways to be extremely thrisfy on consoles too. 3. No, it's not talking about 40 exclusives. When in the last 10 years did any console have 40 solid exclusives worth buying? PS2/PS3 never had that many exclusives worth buying. You'd be lucky to scrap 40 Amazing A+ exclusives across all of Xbox 360/Wii and PS3. As far as buying used games for console, PC games on sale are even cheaper ($5-10 for Tomb Raider, Far Cry 3, Dishonered, Hitman Absolution, GTA IV, Saints Row the Third the Full Package, Batman Arkham games, AC games, The Witcher 2, Metro games). If you start talking about buying used console games vs. PC games on sale at places like GOG, Steam, Origin, Humble Bundle, things get far worse for consoles as their cost of ownership just keeps rising even more. Please read what I said again. I NEVER said that of the 40 games they are all exclusives. Rather I was saying that of the 40 AAA games 10-15 of them will be console exclusives. Don't forget that now when you buy an Intel CPU, AMD or NV GPU, you often get 2-3 free games. So over the next 7-8 years as you upgrade 2-3x with the money saved on console games, you'll get 4-9 free PC games. So lets see.... how much is the cost per upgrade? Fuck i, lets just put it at $300 for a CPU+GPU upgrade. Lets say over the next 7-8 years you do this twice (not even using the 3 times you mentioned in your point). So in 7-8 years you spend $600 on upgrades and get 4-9 free games. In 8 years I spend $400 on PS+ and I get 192 FREE GAMES. Shocking isn't it? Oh by the way, you could get deals and stuff where you can buy a yars worth of PS+ for as little as $35. Again you see why I say PC types have a way of selectively pushing their points and ignoring everything else. Cause nowhere on that chart did it point out that with PS+ for 8 years you would get 192 free games. And thats just for your PS4. You get 192 for the PS3 and PSV too. I only buy consoles for single player exclusives and multiplayer games that friends play. Otherwise, every generation they become less and less relevant as PC becomes easier to plug into your living room (Steam Big Picture), and PC parts last longer than ever (Core i7 920 @ 4.0Ghz from 2008 is still fast enough to pair with a GTX970), while GPUs continue to increase in speed 2X every 3 years. Good for you, but what you have just said is just your opinion, doesn't mean that evryone that doesn't agree with you should be dragged into these kinda arguments. Try this though, go and find 10 random 14 year olds and ask them about steam big picture and about the PS4. Lets see how many of them knows what. Once 4K TVs / Monitors drop in price, in 2-3 years PCs will be gaming at PS5/XB2 level of details. Again, I am not saying consoles are not great - they are! But console gamers overestimate the cost of PC gaming and vastly underestimate the cost of console gaming. The best imo is to get both a PC and a console so that way you can save the most money on buying 95% of cross-platform titles on the PC and buy only console exclusives and some sports games / multiplayer with friends on consoles. If you only own a PC, you miss out on the best exclusives on consoles. If you only own consoles, you get inferior graphics in 95% of cross-platform titles while paying a lot more to get those games. Also, sooner or later those 500GB hard drives on original PS4/XB1 will be too full, forcing you to spend more $ to get a new 1-2 TB HDD. Hahah... you are doing the PC things again. when 4K becomes relevant, meaning that TV broadcasts are actually in 4K and then there is mainstram adoption of the tech, then yeah, we can start talkingabout 4K gaming consoles. And you talk about full harddrives like you can't delete what you don't use. You know teher are people still gaming on 60GB PS3s right? You PC people have this way of making options look like necessities. Like you guys just forget that people can "choose". ---- Even if you could buy a PS4/XB1 for $200 today, it's still cheaper to own a PC over 8 years and it gets cheaper the more games you buy. Why did this thread lead to get a PC? Because if you have a PC you wouldn't need to complain about 900/30 fps on consoles for cross-platform games. You'd get your Uncharted 4 and Last of Us Remastered, Destiny, Bloodbourne, etc. on PS4 and everything cross-platform for cheaper + better graphics on the PC. Then, it wouldn't matter if AC Unity ran at 640x480 at 15 fps on the PS4. That's why I really don't care about the performance of any cross-platform title on consoles -- and why would I? Why would I pay $60 for a game that runs worse in every way and looks worse? Consoles = exclusives, sports games, multiplayer with friends. PC = everything else. It's a win-win combination. Most console gamers just haven't realized this yet. And now with 970M being so fast in laptops, most kids going to college these days can game on their laptop over 4 years without having to bring a console into the dorms. Please read everything else I said. And once you have kids and a wife, you'll probably want some privacy from time to time - for this a desktop gaming PC at home is perfect. |
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I am curious to know something though. Assuming you game a 60" 1080p HDTV. So basically you plug your PC to this TV. Now lets assume you have a $1500 rig but plug that to this 1080p TV so the higherst resolution you can get is 1080p. What I would like to know is that there you thing there is a $1100 boost in quality to the 1080p image you get from say a PS4 running the same game to that same TV. Just curious. Cause its almost as if PC gamers think everyone hase a 1440p or 4k monitor lying around in their homes. They forget that the display standard right now still happens to be 1080p.
