HBM 3D Stacked Memory is up to 9X Faster Than GDDR5 – Coming With AMD R9 390X and R9 380X 20nm Pirate Islands

[VanceIX]

fatslob-:O said:

VanceIX said:

To be fair, AMD was never a semiconductor developer, they are designers of the hardware. Very few companies outside of perhaps Samsung and Qualcomm have access to emiconductor manufacturing in-house.

And yes, they made losses, but in terms of the end product, they have been superior in terms of power to performance. Nvidea has overpriced cardcomparitively, and that's why I buy AMD.

AMD actually was a semiconductor foundry until they were forced to spin-off that last fab to GF ... Sure they are microprocessor designers at heart but they did have a history of doing in-house chip manufacturing and Qualcomm doesn't have any fabs that do chip manufacturing that I'm aware of. The only big players in the semiconductor foundry business are Intel, Samsung, and TSMC with IBM dropping out the race recently. 

Power to performance ? Do you mean performance/watt ? If it is that isn't true at all since the nvidia Maxwell annhilates all of AMD's GCN current line up. If you mean performance/price you don't have much of an argument since the GTX 970 is an extremely good value for competing against comparable AMD counterpats. Nvidia's developer and driver support are also much better than AMD too so that's a big bonus right there.

As for AMD CPU's, their a bunch of sore losers on that front. 

I'm speaking of GPUs, not CPUs. Intel has AMD beat soundly in the CPU department.

I meant price to performance (what I get for posting after just 4 hours of sleep >_>), and in general AMD's high end cards are much cheaper than Nvidea while offering similar perfmoance benefits.

And yes, Qualcomm does't manufacture chips in house, don't know why I mentioned them (once again, I'm completely out of it right now), but it doesn't change the fact that very few companies can afford to run such plants.