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LemonSlice said:

Yes i recognize the issue. It could be stress related, sleep related, even medication or nutrition related. Dry eyes is a very probable culprit is such a case.

 

Dry eyes. You probably have dry eyes. Yes, your dry eyes may only come into effect in front of the computer, but that's how it usually starts. If you want to start alleviating your symptoms you may have to start using artificial tears. After you've tested them and if they don't work, you can stop using them and you'll be none the wiser. But do try them, they could really help you. There are many on the market, and some drops meant for contact lens wearers may be too weak for you.

There are some drops which come in vials and don't have preservatives, but there are also better and worse preservatives among bottled drops which do have them. For long term use you should start looking into those. Also be careful not to use "red out" drops like Visine. They will only make your eyes progressively worse. And stay the hell away from antibiotics.

Well, back in 2009, eye drops did not help at all. But like I said in my first post, my condition has changed, so they might help this time. I'll get some drops next week.


You could try to get the most comfortable screen you can find. And yes, there are screens which are better for the eyes than others. A very important parameter to look for in a monitor is the lack of PWM flicker, another is native 8bit color without dithering. Others can be the lack of glare and sharp resolution. Here is a link that lists flicker free monitors (some may be imperfect still) http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/flicker_free_database.htm     "Affordable" monitors that I know of without both dithering and flicker are HP ZR2740W and Dell U2713HM

Unfortunately, as a student, I don't have the budget for this and I don't know if my parents will agree if it isn't 100 % sure this will cure my symptoms.

Lighting. What is your ambient artificial light? You should stop using flourescents or LEDs for starters. LEDs are better in some cases than CFLs (flourescents) but they're not safe. If they're the kind that flicker they're the worst in the world. Incadescents are the best, and even if you can't find the classic bulbs, you can get the new "eco classic" halogen bulbs like the Philips Eco Classic or the Osram Classic Eco (lol). IMO they're the best bulbs in todays anti-incandescent market. Best for your eyes for sure.

Artificial lights don't cause any issues for me, so this doesn't seem to be part of the problem. Only natural sunlight causes issues.


Some tips:

-Wash your eyes. Soak them in water, then slowly try to open them without blinking too much.

What's this for? To moisture my eyes?

-Put an ambient light behind your monitor. Something like a small table lamp in which you put one of those bulbs we talked about.

Already doing this. Again, artificial light is not an enemy here.

-Do a Schirmer eye test. This will test the severity of your dry eye condition. It's a plus if you can do the test in front of a monitor.

How can I do this? With my eye docter?

-The glasses probably help you because they trap moisture in front of your eyes. You should try reading glasses though, even if a + diopter isn't in your prescription. Get one of those 10EUR +0.5 or maybe +0.75 diopter reading glasses and see if they help.

That's entirely possible, but wearing these glasses really make everything sharper. They really do help, even reading a book with these glasses on is less tiring.

-You could get a humidifier. Heating can make the environment very hostile to dry eyes sufferers. As first aid you could put a wet towel over the radiators, or a pot filled with water.

Will check this out! Now that winter is coming, I'll use a towel to check the effect.

-olive oil, fish oil or Omega 3 capsules should be part of your diet, and supplements with Lutein and Zeaxanthin are worth at least a try

I already take a multivitamin daily, but that's not optimal in this case?

-If you're using any medication, check to see if they cause dry eyes.

Only a multivitamin! :)

-Lower the temperature of the displays. Meaning make them yellowish. Something like a WARM setting, or 3100K or simply tinting the display a yellow color.

I use F;Lux during the evening, exactly for this. But you mean it also helps during the day?

-Don't be obsessed too much about this.

It's hard not do :( but I limit my PC usage during the day and that really helps.

-Listen to music, audio books and radio shows to rest your eyes.

I'm already doing this more and more, my lifestyle has changed quite a bit in one year. I don't watch any new tv shows, although I do watch new episodes of old shows .

-Blink. You need to keep special attention to blinking while being concentrated in front of a monitor.

Yeah, this is really hard to do. Thanks for all your tips!

 

Alby_da_Wolf said:
Zuhyc said:
sergiodaly said:
deskpro2k3 said:

play games in a well lit room.


Actually I think that is worse... The more light the more your brain has to process. By reducing the light, less information goes into your brain from your peripheral eye sight, reducing also the effort the brain does in processing our mental image. I guess this is the reason the Op felt less issues during the night.



Those are my thoughts as well. I also think glare has somethin to do with it, even though I have an anti glare coat.


Beware that total darkness and so excessive contrast with the environment is bad too, the ideal to minimize eye strain from active screens (active meaning emitting light, not reflecting it, cinemas haven't this problem) is that the environment around be very dimly lit with diffused light (doctors eventually found that watching TV in the darkness doesn't damage sight as previously believed, but they confirmed it causes fatigue, strain).

There even are specialized lights for this purpose, like this http://www.beghelli.it/it/ita/prodotti.asp?idProd=7827 (couldn't find a page with a description in English)  and IIRC I also saw TVs with that kind of environment lighting built-in.

I already use some artifical lightning during the nights. Because total darkness is not pleasant either. Artificial light doesn't seem to strain my eyes.

 

@ RenCutypoison: I still prefer to read a normal book instead of using an e-reader.