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Teeqoz said:
I3LuEI3omI3eR said:
Teeqoz said:

Ratchet could deploy the groovitron, and switch to the temporal repulsor which will, along with pacifying Luigi, also blast him away. Ratchet switches weapons instantaneously, as in zero point zero seconds.

But the Grovitron TRAVELS SLOW... Luigi would have already gotten into Ratchets grill by that time, activate the Negative Zone, Shin Shoryuken him, and he's toast.

Even if Luigi doesn't get to him, he'll still have Samus that can travel Mach 5 speeds to deal with WAY before Groovitron even activates. That thing is hella slow compared to the abilities of MANY Nintendo characters. And Donkey Kong is immune to any mind control and could punch Ratchet into a pulp (he's punched a MOON into orbit before). Fox McCloud has gone to a planet, battled meat eating dinosaurs, and conquered the Planet just because he was having a bad day! This is Fox WITHOUT his fighter plane!! Even with the Melee cast, the Playstation allstars are Hella owned by the Smash Bros. Ness has defeated the CONCEPT of Evil! Mewtwo can mind control Ratchet, Gannondorf can control Kratos because he can influence any being with an once of evil in them, even if Link dies he can be UBER Cheezy because he can equip 4 fairies in bottles that will Revive him to FULL HEALTH everytime he dies. That means you have to deal with a guy that has 15 Generations of fighting Demi-gods, saved the world 15 TIMES, has Bombs, Fire, Ice, and Light Arrows, the Master Sword that's considered the Bane of all Evil, takes 75% less damage due to special armor or magical enchantments, has temporary invunerability, can travel thru time and dimensions, can travel speeds of Mach 2 with the Pegusas Boots, and has the Video game version of the utility belt, at least 5 TIMES!! I mentioned what Samus can do earlier so I won't even go into detail with her. Princess Zelda has helped sealed Gannondorf before, and even if you get past all these UBER OP Character you still have to deal with the merger of the triforce with Link, Zelda, and Gannondorf which is like the equivalent of the 7 Dragon Balls.

Then there are the Fire Emblem Character whose weapons can hurt the gods and made by the gods, and IKE and Lucina have killed Gods before. Ike's killed two in one game! And also defeated the medieval equivalent of Darth Vader TWICE! Ike, Marth Lucina can strategize a whole battle plan since they are used to fighting large battles and are aware of all there allies strengths and weaknesses, and they are used to not letting ANYONE die (everyone that plays fire emblem knows this for a fact). Hell Ike led an Army that freed a Kingdom from a Mad Demigod King and an Army against the Creators of his world. He is considered the best Swordsman in his world and has beaten the best. To tell you the truth I think Ike can even Beat Link One on One (that says A LOT in itself). Lucina and Marth have led armies as well. I am not even mentioning the OP skills each Fire Emblem character gets (Ike and Lucina have Aether where he hits an opponent and regenerates their HP). If they have low HP they have skills that make it 50% more likely to crit, dealing 3x more damage. They have abilities that can make you go twice in one turn, hit with 5 strikes in one single attack, have a OHK skill, regeneration skill, an ability that can take a death blow and so forth. FE chars are in a different league of broken as well.

Kirby can swallow building, hills, and EVEN MOUNTAINS, he can definitely swallow Kratos and steal his powers. He is also considered immortal. I think he can even swallow up that GROOVITRON thing and then a party will be in his belly. And speaking of which, YOSHI can swallow ANYTHING too! He can definitely swallow that Groovitron ball and that's it! Yoshi is used to swallowing things up that round anyway! Hell he can swallow it and throw it back at them!! Yoshi is a cute terror in itself!!

The Melee roster is enough, the Wii U one is OVERKILL (Little Mac beat MIKE TYSON , Toon Link has timestop, Pikuchu can shock you with 100.000 volts, Rosalina and Palutena are Gods, the Wii Trainer has moves based on dance, nullifying GROOVITRON, Pit has slay Gods as well, Mega Man can time stop too, Sonic travels light speeds and the Chaos Emeralds anyone)? I can go on here but I’ll just leave it like that.

To be fair I think the Smash Roster wins because they just have more characters. That’s why they will OP the Playstation All stars. Maybe if they had the same amount of characters to go toe-to-toe with Smash, the outcome would be different. But it’s not like that...


Yeah, the Groovitron travels slowly, but Ratchet doesn't have to wait for the Groovitron to activate before he can use another weapon. He simply needs to throw the Groovitron (which is instant) and then he can switch to another weapon (switchibg is also instant). Besides, Luigi can't do jackshit to him, due to his shield, which blocks all damage. All as in 100%. So after Ratchet throws out the Groovitron, he blows Donkey Kong and Luigi to shits. Same with Samus. Despite her mach 5 speed, she has no choice but to flee so as to escape the power of the Groovitron, and she can't hurt Ratchet because of his shield

Link has fire, ice and light arrows, and even bombs? *Shudders in fear* (not really). Ratchet has a shield that blocks all damage, tve Golden Groovitron (it has infinite ammo), he throws nuclear bombs, and uses black holes as grenades. He has bombs that literally suck the life out of his enemies. He also has decoys that completely distracts his enemies, he has weapons that leave his enemies unable to do anything besides curl up in a ball because of fear (yes, the weapon literally induces pure complete fear in his enemies), he can create rifts to other dimensions. The master sword may be the bane of all evil, but Ratchet isn't evil. Link's armor blocks 75% of all damage? Ratchet's armor blocks 90% damage and that's ignoring the shield that blocks all damage. Link has saved the world 15 times? Ratchet has saved tge frickin universe multiple times. And source that says that Link can run at Mach 2 please? And is it Link himself that can travel through dimensions and time, because I thought that was the goddess of time that helped him, and she isn't part of this fight.

Ike's killed two gods in one game. Kratos has killed what, 7? 8? 9 Gods in one game? That's basically all Kratos does, he slays gods. Fire Emblem chars are hardly broken. They have pretty mundane abilities compared to a lot of other charaxthers. They have abilities that gives them two turns in a row? Ratchet doesn't wait for his 'turn' to attack, this is a battle, and he want's to win.

if Kirby can swallow a groovitron (who knows) Ratchet could just throw another one. Ratchet could use a Mag-Net that traps Kirby for a short while so that he gets time to throw another one, and when Kirby gets free from the Mag-Net, the groovitron will have activated and he will have to dance.

Can Yoshi fly? Because the Groovitron does, and if Yoshi tries to jump or fly if he can, the Ratchet could just shopt him down. You seem to think the only thing Ratchet can do is use the Groovitron, but that's not the case.

Little Mac, yeah, nope Pikachu's powers<<<<

And I saw your post above, the shots will hit Ratchet, but his shield will block them. The shots can't destroy his weapons because they are also inside his shield, the shield is a bubble that encapsules Ratchet and his weapons, and that bubble will take anything you shoot at it. Also, Ratchet doesn't have to aim to hit Samus nor Sonic, because he has several weapons that automatically looks on to enemies (he even has one that locks on to enemies, and then insta vaporizes them (it can lock on to several enemies per shot))

As I said before, Ratchet is too slow to see people going at super sonic speeds. Samus can also literally destroy all his weapons before he does anything. Though I will say this, how would the groovitron do anything to Donkey Kon? Donkey Kong is strong enough to punch the moon down to earth and he's immune to mind control and hypnotism. 

Why does Ratchet vs Link even matter when it's Samus vs Ratchet? That shield will do nothing since Samus's wave beam can bypass objects in the way so he's putting that shield up for nothing. Furthermore, her armor and shields are superior to Ratchet's.

That Fire Emblem god he's talking about could shoot battlefield petrifying blasts that turn people into stone. It also took a god killing blade to kill her. And that's just from one of the Fire Emblem universe from its multiverse. The gods in GoW are really pathetic. All they are is just that they're really big and heavy. They're very slow(except Hermes) and some of them can be taken down without the god killing weapon Blade of Olympus.

Kirby can eat the mag-net as well. It's not like it's too big and Kirby has eaten enemies made out of plasma and electricity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmzaOpZLl3g#t=728

As seen here, Kirby ate a giant laser, platforms, giant sized petals and broke the fourth wall to eat her health bar. The mag-net is a simple problem.

Yoshi and Pikachu are non-factors for Nintendo kinda like 1/2 of the characters for PS-All Stars side.

I'm not saying Samus's shots will destroy him in one hit(although the darkburst would send him to an alternate dimension), but I'm saying that she will always hit Ratchet while he will always miss. That bubble will be useless since the wave beam can pass shields. Auto-lock would probably work against him, Samus is as fast if not faster than his weapons. All they would do is follow Samus, but it would never hit her since she's as fast if not faster than them. It doesn't help that Samus can shoot the projectiles going after her. Do you have proof that his weapons can auto-lock onto something going at super sonic speeds. Same case with Sonic, except he's invulnerable, so all attacks wouldn't work.

Still no counter to the Triforce and Monado.



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