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kowenicki said:
kitler53 said:
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even if there is a boost it's just a cake (aka lie) to make the numbers taste sweeter.    at this point we don't need confirmation to know whatever is posted is guess.  it will get adjusted eventually to be "reasonable" but we'll need several shipment numbers to get it right.   hell,. even with shipment numbers that hasn't prevented adjustments being in excess of a million units at a time..

either MS announces their numbers or we'll never know.

Exactly.  The expansion of the market means that shipments is now the only relaible source we have.  Problem is neither Ms or Sony are very forthcoming with those either these days.

sony, at least, has given a few of their big milestone like 10M.  i do expect those to be fewer and further between thought. 

but yeah,. the stupid  "blah blah family" shipment figures is bullshit.